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A Short But powerful Statement Regarding Utopias

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Everybody has their ideal of a perfect world, their utopia.

But there is always one problem with Utopias. You see, all Utopias always have a price to pay.

And that price is all Utopias are always built on the backs of the disenfranchised or the people who don't agree with the ideals of the Utopia. As those who run the Utopia will always seek to get rid of those who don't agree with their vision.




posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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This is why first, we need global empathy. From there, it will lead to global consciousness. From there, we reach utopia...because then everyone will understand each other, and deception and violence will be virtually obsolete.

If you don't think it can happen, there's a reason we're all drugged with additives and chemicals. There's a reason that all of our super-technology doesn't include chemical injections inducing ESP. There's a reason all funding for psionics and psychic activity has been cut short.

Our leaders don't want a peaceful world, because strife makes more money than peace. That's why they need to be "injected" first...so to speak.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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And that price is all Utopias are always built on the backs of the disenfranchised or the people who don't agree with the ideals of the Utopia. As those who run the Utopia will always seek to get rid of those who don't agree with their vision.


I would say then it is not a true Utopia. What you describe is a Dystopia, where the people are oppressed by the state.

A Utopia is like the Star Trek universe, where everyone has equal rights, the world has infinite resources, and is extremely technologically advanced. Without those things people will always envy others, they will always want "their fair share". But with unlimited resources this would not be a problem.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Everybody has their ideal of a perfect world, their utopia.

But there is always one problem with Utopias. You see, all Utopias always have a price to pay.

And that price is all Utopias are always built on the backs of the disenfranchised or the people who don't agree with the ideals of the Utopia. As those who run the Utopia will always seek to get rid of those who don't agree with their vision.



If you are conditioned from birth to live in an utopia of plenty with harmony and a philosophy towards unity and are not taught unenlightened ego parasitic behaviour then there is little problems. It is the going from one screwed up system to an utopia with people who do not want the utopia because they gain from despair.

The manipulator and ego person who always want to be more or have more than the rest is always gonna be the corruption of any utopia as long as they are allowed to behave badly. Today we say do not murder, steal or rape. In the future when we evolve further it will be do not lie or manipulate or be egoistic. I would love to splitt up the egoless from the truly egoinflicted and let the egoinflicted go their own way.

Only people who want to be in unity can be made to be united. Let the rest choose their fate themselves.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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The problem with Utopias is the fact that it is plural.
Therefore it infers a myriad of utopian states.
All seperate,
All unique,
All with unshakeable self belief.
result = War

The unique thing about being human is the fact that utopia is so personal that it cannot be 100% shared by anyone else.
Utopia isolates,i ts illusion is so personal, it is like heaven, an ideal but utterly lonely in practice. ie you might want me there, but do I want to be there?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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The first step to a utopia on this planet is to realize that things will never be perfect. When we accept that life will never be perfect, that people will never be perfect, we'll start to suddenly see that everything is perfect just the way it is.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Damn the ego. We are its prisoners. For now.

Utopia is never a place to arrive at. Each sentient individual will always have an image of a perfect world - even though it might be someone else's dystopia. Utopia in the modern (20th Century) sense was encaptured as singular visions of perfection and was used to support ideologies such as "The American dream" or Communism.

A 21st Century conception of utopia can be described as Polytopia - (poly-many, diverse)(topos- place, state of mind) Still want to make a thread on this, but check out:

Polytopia (the emergence of)

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