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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by Davian
Ha!
I have been saying this for ages. Of course they are terrified. They see their doom on the horizon.
Nationalize.
That is what keeps them awake. That is what makes them shake. That is what will destroy them.
Nationalize everything!
Are you the only person to figure this out? I thought I was on ATS wasting my time............
We only need to nationalize the industries that are integral to our standard of living. Banking, energy, food, healthcare, water, transportation, communication, and housing to a degree. Doesn't mean you don't reward workers for a job well done or innovation.
Industries that provide goods and services not vital to our standard of living should stay capitalistic.
The Euro zone is not looking too good regardless of a Greece exit or not. Greece will liklely just grease the skids so to say.
It already was like that in western europe going back at least 20 years ago. Slowely but surely reaganomics and thatcherism killed the "by the people and for the people" dream under the guise of economic reform. They never told europeans that the central bank is a debt dictatorship which undermines public opinions and demands. The banks always came first!
Are there any europeans on ATS that remember any of this? Surely it was not thaaaattt looooonnggg ago But we sure as hell remember World War 2, which was 30 years before european socialism. My, my, my....how soon we forget what is so convient and prop up ONLY the UGLY! In fact I am having doubts if it was 3 milion or 6 million "undesirables" gassed to death by nazis. Jews lie about A LOT of things to keep world war 3 alive.edit on 5/15/2012 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by justwokeup
It suits people to create a false choice that its either the broken crony capitalism we have now, or the type of socialism that has fallen into failure every time its been tried at a national level.
Originally posted by justwokeup
The people that do remember the 70s nationalised industry are in no hurry to the return to it.
Only the young who've never had to deal with it romanticise nationalised industry.
I would nationalise Power Generation and Water because of the importance to national survival and because they require long term decisions that are contrary to the short term optimum. In these cases its better to do the right thing inefficiently over the long term than the wrong thing efficiently.
I would not nationalise banking but I would enforce segregation of investment and high street banking, and more importantly institute full reserve banking, in effect nationalising the ability to create currency.
www.positivemoney.org.uk...
It suits people to create a false choice that its either the broken crony capitalism we have now, or the type of socialism that has fallen into failure every time its been tried at a national level.
Originally posted by justwokeup
I just noticed the disgraceful holocaust denial at the bottom of your post. For shame.
edit on 15-5-2012 by justwokeup because: sad discovery
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by justwokeup
The people that do remember the 70s nationalised industry are in no hurry to the return to it.
Only the young who've never had to deal with it romanticise nationalised industry.
I would nationalise Power Generation and Water because of the importance to national survival and because they require long term decisions that are contrary to the short term optimum. In these cases its better to do the right thing inefficiently over the long term than the wrong thing efficiently.
I would argue nationalised industry is more efficient and much more reliable in the long run than private industry. In other words no corners are cut to maximise profits.
I would not nationalise banking but I would enforce segregation of investment and high street banking, and more importantly institute full reserve banking, in effect nationalising the ability to create currency.
www.positivemoney.org.uk...
It suits people to create a false choice that its either the broken crony capitalism we have now, or the type of socialism that has fallen into failure every time its been tried at a national level.
Banking, and especially central banking, should be nationalised. Unless you enjoy being its slave. I thought the whole idea was to get rid of bondage. Re-read the post you quoted from if needed. You can't cry for freedom on one hand and then ask for more of the same...it is hypocrisy!
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by justwokeup
Yes the central bank should be nationalised. That is exactly what I meant!
I have no problem with commercial banks competing for customers. It is healthy in this regard.
Anything that is critical for national infrastructure should be nationalised. Everything else should remain private!
Hence mixed economy. I have been saying it for years and that is what most people mean with socialism. The fact so many people confuse socialism with communism is a conspiracy of its own and based on the gross errors of the communist manifesto of the 19th century.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by Davian
Ha!
I have been saying this for ages. Of course they are terrified. They see their doom on the horizon.
Nationalize.
That is what keeps them awake. That is what makes them shake. That is what will destroy them.
Nationalize everything!
Are you the only person to figure this out? I thought I was on ATS wasting my time............
We only need to nationalize the industries that are integral to our standard of living. Banking, energy, food, healthcare, water, transportation, communication, and housing to a degree. Doesn't mean you don't reward workers for a job well done or innovation.
Industries that provide goods and services not vital to our standard of living should stay capitalistic.
The Euro zone is not looking too good regardless of a Greece exit or not. Greece will liklely just grease the skids so to say.
It already was like that in western europe going back at least 20 years ago. Slowely but surely reaganomics and thatcherism killed the "by the people and for the people" dream under the guise of economic reform. They never told europeans that the central bank is a debt dictatorship which undermines public opinions and demands. The banks always came first!
Are there any europeans on ATS that remember any of this? Surely it was not thaaaattt looooonnggg ago But we sure as hell remember World War 2, which was 30 years before european socialism. My, my, my....how soon we forget what is so convient and prop up ONLY the UGLY! In fact I am having doubts if it was 3 milion or 6 million "undesirables" gassed to death by nazis. Jews lie about A LOT of things to keep world war 3 alive.edit on 5/15/2012 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Davian
Bilderberg Scheme To Save The Euro
www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
The Bilderberg Group is terrified that Greece’s potential exit from the eurozone could lead to a dramatic economic recovery and provide a template for other countries to follow suit, threatening to torpedo the euro single currency and the entire agenda for a European federal superstate.
Originally posted by WatchRider
Originally posted by Davian
Bilderberg Scheme To Save The Euro
www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
The Bilderberg Group is terrified that Greece’s potential exit from the eurozone could lead to a dramatic economic recovery and provide a template for other countries to follow suit, threatening to torpedo the euro single currency and the entire agenda for a European federal superstate.
Burn baby burn!
I enjoy it when the ptb's scheming ways unravel like a spinning top!
How exactly would Greece exit the Euro?