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Originally posted by eletheia
reply to post by ringlejames
Now i am realy puzzled...your quote
"The sumerian tablets say enki created man by infusing the previous "homo sapiens"
with their Annunaki dna"
Did they realy know of dna? I was under the impression that dna was first discoveredin 1869!
Then in a Giants search watching youtube videos I discovered THE ANUNNAKI - those who from heaven to Earth came. About an advanced giant human race millions of years ahead of us in technology, Like a starwars movie with beam weapons, and aircrafts. They come from an undiscovered tenth planet Nibiru in our solar system way past pluto, that has an elongated orbit that goes way past pluto and enters the inner solar system between mars and jupiter in a reverse rotation every 3600 years. How they came here thousands of years ago and gave birth to humanity here on Earth.
Originally posted by Jomina
Eh, I've known this for ages now lol And though I have tried to point the question out to folks, no one likes to listen. Cognitive dissonance is too strong in most religious folks. Their brain will not allow them to listen.
But, yes. the old testament is, essentially, a re-written version of many sumerian texts, as well as Egyptian and, I have begun to note, some Ayurvedic things as well (or so it would seem).
Great example is the story of Noah and the flood. Same story is told in the Epic of Gilgamesh, with different names, faces and places.
But if the Epic of Gilgamesh is the older version, that makes it the more correct one, to logical thinking, because it would be closer to the source of the story.
Therefore, the story of Noah is, to bite no bones about it, a flat out lie.
Now... start out your conversation with someone that is hyper religious with that factoid, and see what happens.
Cognitive dissonance, followed by denial and, if pressed, they will likely go violent on you.
Happens. Trust me on that one.
And, to top it all off, the Sumerian texts are very likely not the originals themselves.
Here's another factoid. According to the old testament, Abraham WAS A SUMERIAN. He was from the land of Ur. That's, to those of you that don't know, Sumeria.
So from the get-go, the whole Hebrew religion, which spawned both Christianity and Islam, was started by Abraham, who was a refugee from Sumeria.
Don't think that fact had an influence on anything that he told his kiddos to pass down the family tree?
This quote from the website is everything that's wrong with Sumerian discource and alternative theory. Simply said, the planet Nibiru doesn't exist.
Originally posted by ringlejames
Like The Sumerian tablets depicting the creation of modern man had been run through 1380 years of the telephone game and we have the new testament.
Someone had heard the story and written it down maybe the way he heard it maybe a little differently. Who knows. All I know is that Christianity is an even bigger shame than I thought.
I was surfing the net and came across a college site who translated the Sumerian tablets. I forget what site it was
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by ringlejames
The Old Testament is actually a compiliation of many great ancient legends and culture from various civilizations, not just the Sumarians.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
The bible speaks about the creation of earth. However, the Sumerian accounts speak of the creation of the universe. There is strike one.
Strike one? Pardon me, but this is a homerun: In the beginning [time], God created the heavens [space] and the earth [matter]...and God said Let there be light [energy]. Here's the foundation for our modern understanding of the world and the universe, and it's all in Genesis 1:1-2. Your clay tablets are crude on more than one level.
Also, inspiring and authoritative are opinionated statements so they hold no water.
When I say "inspiring," I am referring to the doctrine which states that the Bible is inspired (or dictated if you prefer) word-for-word and letter-for-letter. In view of the heptadic coding, nothing else makes sense. It is not an opinion, it is a mathematical certainty. The same goes for "authoritative," but then most folks don't want to accept that because they do not want to answer to a God who has authority and power.
As far as the hepatic structure, Im sure that there could be an equally impressive structure to be found in the Sumerian tale. However, with much of that missing or gone, partially due to the waves of historical destruction that occurred in the name of the bible.
I doubt that you'd find such an "equally impressive structure" in the Sumerian tales, and the burden of proof is on you, so don't turn the tablets quite yet. Further, I ask you what "waves of historical destruction" occurred to the Sumerian records due to anything having to do with the Bible? Those clay tables were buried centuries before the world ever heard of a Christian. Red herring? I think so.
Thats what really seems to scare the Catholics is "pagan worship". Well I ask this, If it was just made up, then why did the Catholics fear it so much. Its a horrible feeling to see an Egyptian hieroglyph scratched out and a cross placed over it.
Not being Catholic, I really can't answer for the fear of all things Pagan, but perhaps it is because so much of Catholicism is also made up? Just a guess. As far as the hieroglyphs, the Egyptians did a lot of scratching on their own, and when Egypt became (at least nominally) Christian, some habits carried over...
Egyptian mythology has shown even more impressive feats of structure and sequencing. A good example would be the Eye of Horus fractions. Not to mention the amazing things found in the dimensions of the Pyramids.
I'm a student of Egyptian mathematics and pyramidology, so I'm well aware of that. I've even read the Egyptian Book of the Dead - superstitious drivel for the most part. However, if you go back far enough in Egyptian religious history, you come up against a single deity who made people on a potter's wheel, much as the Bible depicts God making people. The true account was not so corrupted that far back.
The bible is a drastically edited book that was originally a library of books that has been whittled down to the gems as several different sects of Christianity fought over control of it. It was edited by men, in an attempt to control people.
That old chestnut again - can you substantiate that? Even if it is true, a proposition I do not accept, it is still the most accurately preserved document which has come down to us from antiquity. If what you say is true, the heptadic codes would not work, but they do.
It [the Bible] was edited by men, in an attempt to control people.
Yes, most of the modern versions do that, and the perps will reap a terrible reward for it. Other forces try to keep God's Word intact. Corrupted documents, Biblical or otherwise will not help you, but until God opens your eyes, there you are...with corrupted documents.
Originally posted by aBeneGesserit
reply to post by ringlejames
He starts with the Sumerians and the tablets found and gives evidence and translations that show that the Bible, specifically Genesis, is based on Sumerian traditions and beliefs.
Originally posted by WarriorOfLight96
Satan is older than man and planted the seeds of doubt, fallen angels are the creators of these lies and will stop at nothing to convince you that they are from space. sumarians to egyptians all are victims to the deciever and so on and you should try putting it all together and see what you guys come up with. Instead of trying to disprove the bible, why not try put all the things that happened in the past and bunch them up into one theory. That Satan has been working since the dawn of man to draw man away from God.