House Votes today to Tie Obama's Hands on Iran

Bull ,we can create plenty of wealth once they get off the hidden tech we have.We don't need conflict thats programming.Those thousands would be put to work on industry recovery and infrastructure reconstruction I read that Col as the military saying "watch it" The brass don't get involved openly in politics they just follow orders,unless they get stupid....again .In which case colonels warn them then ,behind the scenes Generals and admirals stop them by not giving the order.It has happened before and it will happen again.

thehill.com...

The House on Tuesday evening debated two bills aimed at reinforcing U.S. policy to deny Iran nuclear weapons capability, and bolstering human rights in in North Korea.

Members debated H.Res. 568, which expresses the sense of the House about the importance of denying Iran nuclear weapons, and were poised to approve that resolution later in the week. House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) said the resolution helps draw attention to the fact that Iran continues to threaten peace in the Middle East.

"The Iranian regime continues to pose an immediate and growing threat to the United States, to our allies, and to the Iranian people," Ros-Lehtinen said.

A 'sense of the house' bill appears to be toothless!

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Too bad environmentalists on the Left who hate nuclear power plants because of what happens in places like Chernobyl and Fukushima also seem to be for Iran having nuclear capablilities. Is that some kind of bizarro schizoid thinking or can you make some sense out of it?

So you are for starting yet ANOTHER war? Because that seems to be the alternative and the
way to stop the Iranians. So you want to reduce government spending and the size of government,
but you also what to start a war that will cost more MONEY and require more resources diverted to
"national security".

That is Bizzaro

No, I am definitely NOT for war with Iran or any other wars. I have repeatedly criticized the administration for going into Libya. You are just reading your own ideas into my post. I do know that while the Left pretends to be against war when it suits them, they also will support leftist guerilla activities or any other war that will further their agenda. I am merely trying to show the hypocrisy of the far left.

Speaking of Libya and just to get some honest feedback... does anyone feel that Ahmadinejad could end up like Gaddafi? Their scientists are already being eliminated...

This is kind of insane....looks like Zionists are trying to downgrade their image even further (if that's possible) in the eyes of the Americans and the rest of their supporters....seems like they are intentionally doing that to make it so clear even to an overly exposed to MSM ten yrs old ,that they are pure EVIL and the world is much better off without them .... They themselves are so fed up with it!....I am sure this behavior is called something in criminology or psychology!.

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No i dont think Ahmadinejad will end up like the colonel...Gaddafi was a long time supporter of the west and their policies...he wasn't democratically elected...he was kind of dictatorish a puppet,just like the west like him to be, much like his friend Mubarak. and he seemed on acid most of the times!...he was buddies with Sarkosy,Berlosconi and a bunch of other western leaders and did them financial personal favors in more than just one occasion.he was a multi billionaire and he was the ruler of Libya.which none of apply to Ahmadinejad.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by BellaSabre
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Oh yes I know. The implications are quite frightening. I don't want Iran to have that caliber of WMD's. ( Factually, I don't want anybody to have them.)
But nor do I want a group of warmongers on the ready to begin something most of us don't want. And it's Iran. They have a messed-up government like everybody else, but are mostly a wonderful, peaceful people. Nobody wants to think about all the innocent citizens who live in Iran.

Yes, I have nothing against Iran's people by any means. I just look at this from the geopolitical standpoint of how Iran lines up with China and Russia and I do not trust either of them. Even if we thought the Obama admin was courting Iran to be on the side of the US, Russia and China are not going to give up so easily. This all gets complicated by enmity between Israel and Islam, with Israel classically being an ally to the US and Iran being an ally to Russia. Obama has been going about alienating our biggest allies in that region. What reason can he have for that other than to be ummmmmm acting on the wrong side. ? We also know that Soros and the Unions were backing the Egyptian uprising and we know that is a strategic place. Why would Obama encourage an uprising which gives more power to the Muslim Brotherhood while taking down all the pro Western leaders? Is anybody thinking here? And again, why did he NOT support the student uprising in Iran, but instead supported leaving that regime in place? I think these questions need to be addressed.
What is the answer? To have a nuclear Iran? Will that make the whole world safer?

Also, I think TPTB are setting it all up for major destruction and loss of life.

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Probably cause most people dislike zionism more than islamic fanaticism. I don't see many fanatics in Wall Street trying to maximise profits at every opportunity, nor do I see them urging russia to go to war against america.

America attacked iraq TWICE! Was it for oil or to keep saudi arabia and israel safe? If it was for oil the republicans in office failed miserably cause the price has skyrocketed to $4.50 a barrel in the states and something like $10 a gallon in europe. Companies made a killing rebuilding iraq eventhough there was a mild terrorist threat from some extremists.

They attacked afghanistan supposedly to get rid of alqueda when 9-11 really was all about covering up the $2.3 trillion missing from the pentagon. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said one day prior to 9-11 that $2.3 were unnaccounted for and barely anyone paid attention. To this day hardely anyone mentions where did the money go: a)to israel or b)ufo projects or c)stolen by some person/group. Is this really not important for anyone?

So basically we still don't know WHO DID 9-11 and everything points to a monumental coverup of epic porportions. Then britain and france enrolled america for help to get rid of Quadafi in libya and considering action against syria.

Israel has a huge, powerful lobby in washington and europe. This is undeniable! Also jews control most of the oil, gold and currency speculation. They control the diamond trade. They have the rothschild family who always lends israel a helping hand.

On the other hand we have a modest iran, russia and china who never really threaten anyone. Sure the iranian and syrian dictators are assholes but they don't have the financial resources to do much other than bark, bark, bark and then bark some more.

I would be much more worried about Israel and America who DO have the financial resources and MOTIVE to create endless conflicts to profit from high weapon turnover and to create instability factors that cause concern which in turn causes prices to go up. If america would use a nuclear weapon on japan and not even help the japanese people today with the fukishima disaster, then I have no trouble believing they would start yet another pre-emptive war.

So GOP controlled Congress is effectively asking the President to declare war on Iran?

This is a flip from normal procedure. Normally, the President would be asking Congress for permission.