Proof of chemtrail/geo-engineering May 11

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Thank you for the info. I really appreciate it.


It literally looks like "they" are "making clouds". The trails, once left beehind, appear to expand and form clouds.




posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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You don't have to block the sun from the world.
Your best bet is to block it from metropolitan areas.
That's the most bang for the buck.
Good thread HumanAlien.
Why if these are contrails would they just
be at sunset around large cities?
And then nothing but blue sky everywhere else.
I think you have brought a great case for "Chem" to the table.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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The vids that I took and posted were taken in the morning. At around 8:30 a.m. Directly over Nashville, TN.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by KNOWREALLY
reply to post by AndyMayhew
 


Thank you for the info. I really appreciate it.


It literally looks like "they" are "making clouds". The trails, once left beehind, appear to expand and form clouds.


Yes, they literally are making clouds - depending on atmospheric conditions, aircraft have been doing this since the 1920s. Factories do the same - indeed, there's now a name for clouds made by power stations "fumulus" and on occasion, these can produce localised snow fall (O/T but I have experienced diesel trains doing the same!) . Even cars make 'clouds' in very cold weather - although they don't usually last very long.

And of course, as recently as the 1950s house fires made 'clouds' which enveloped the likes of London in 'smog'

Humans affect the weather. Very rarely intentionally!



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by sealing
You don't have to block the sun from the world.
Your best bet is to block it from metropolitan areas.


Why?

Block the sun from 0.001% of the planet and it does what? Except make ignorant people believe in bizarre conspiracies?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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How could contrails witch are water vapor form infront of the sun (hottest spot in the atmosphere) and not form any where else?


Contrails are not water vapor. Water vapor is invisible.
You've never seen a cloud in front of the Sun? Do you think that cloud was "in front of the Sun" for everybody, everywhere?


Clouds are not FROZEN water vapor contrails are. I would like to hear you view on why the "contrails" seem to have spread out to make a gigantic blob?
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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On this same date, and in the same location, the sun shone through a clear-to-partly cloudy sky earlier in the morning and later in the afternoon.

In Bexar County, Texas, scattered thunderstorms were interspersed with blue skies.
In Carmel, Indiana the 10th through the 15th of May were marked by predominantly clear, crystal-blue skies.

Anecdotal observations are "proof" of nothing more than superimposed "chemtrail" fears and biases.

jw



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by sealing
You don't have to block the sun from the world.
Your best bet is to block it from metropolitan areas.


Why?

Block the sun from 0.001% of the planet and it does what? Except make ignorant people believe in bizarre conspiracies?


I'm sure you meant Ignorant in the best possible way.
So hypothetically, if there was a conspiracy to block the view of the sun at sunset
and you didn't really care about what the birds and the bees saw,
You would most likely ignore that 99.99% of the plants and animals
and focus on what humans could witness .
Following the hypothesis that the intended result was to block
the sun from "Human" eyes.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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There is no way that anyone, even the government, could block out the entire hemisphere where the sun is shining. What is seen in the video is a mixture of contrails and natural cloud formations. It seems to me that this is a moderately high air traffic area, and the altitudes that were being flown, coupled with the atmospheric conditions at those altitudes, were conducive to not only forming contrails, but making them linger after the planes have passed.

So there is no way anyone is attempting to block out the sun. That sounds like a Pinky and the Brain type of plan...And need I remind you how their attempts to take over the world ended? Granted, they were just mice, but I'm sure you get what I'm saying. Cartoon mice at that. They really were handicapped from the get-go by their small stature and puny mouse-muscles. I always wanted them to succeed though, although the Brain was relatively evil, and Pinky had downs syndrome. What are we going to do today Pinky? Haha, I think I have ADD.

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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I really don't think it is about blocking out the Sun. It is about raining aluminum particles into our soil so that gardens and trees don't grow as well. This way we are dependent on companies like Monsanto and the Govt for food. It is all about control.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by notalurker
reply to post by Human_Alien
 


I'm not going to say I know anything more on the subject than the average lay-person.
I have, in my relatively few years meandering around on this planet, noticed that the folks who deem themselves charged with making decisions on our behalf rarely find it useful or necessary to keep everyone in the loop.
I saw a vid on youtube one time (ha! I already sound like a seasoned poster!) that had 'secret footage of an interview with a pilot admitting chemtrails exist'
The company name came up. I googled them. Here's the link to the company website:

weathermodification.com...

So, chemtrails? Is there a debate? I dunno. I know there's a lot more toxins around me than would be there if we all acted on the precautionary principle, but I'm not going to let it keep me from enjoying the (rare) sunshine I have outside today. I generally don't have enough faith in whomever appears to be calling the shots to be any more intellectually gifted than any of the rest of us or capable of massive organizational efforts aimed to foil the rest of our attempted happy existence.

It's all about perspective, right?



I am honored that you signed up to share your feelings on this thread. Thank you


And what you said about trusting those calling the shots, controlling the data and owning the equipment.....and our dissipating trust in each passing year...does cause one (whose paying attention) to become very cynical and suspicious ....on a good day!

My problem...well, one of them concerning this subject is, if they're doing something courageous and humanitarian (like cooling off OUR planet for us) then, why the secret?

And here's where conspiracies divide off in a million different directions.
Do they know something like possibly Planet X is due to come into our inner solar system and doing something preventive measures?
Do they suspect the Sun will give off some catastrophic CME's in the near future and again, doing something preemptive and secretive so not to cause panic?
Are they in cahoots with Monsanto and trying to render the soils contaminated thus forcing us all to use GM produce?

I mean the list along with the paranoia can go on and on.

And I think, many of us WANT to believe these are just contrails but most of us just can't go down that rabbit hole for some reason. Here are three reasons:
1) they don't look like contrails
2) there are too many out at the same time to be contrails
and
3) they don't act like contrails.

So here we are....not knowing what we're looking at and trying to defend our common sense in the process. So it's not an easy task!

Thanks again for weighing in my friend!



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Well I`ve seen my fair share of Chemtrails, but man is this one great. Completely clear skys everywhere but over the sun, and to make it even better, there is tons of trails and planes only where the sun is. If they were contrails, you would see them continue on with the plane before disappearing. Not just suddenly stopping and staying there...
Go search Google, Sunrise Clouds and you wont see one picture looking like that.
Great find !
And Phage, you can`t even say if you were 10 - 20 miles whatever direction you would have clear sky, your not located there, do you have the info on the clouds that day in that exact spot?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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They could be dumping crap into the air there, as they do everywhere. Might not even be blocking the sun, and just the right place to spread over populated ares was right in front of the sun at that time?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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I suppose you could call ice "frozen water vapor" but you might as well call it frozen water.

Contrails and cirrus clouds are composed of ice crystals. The tops of very tall cumulus clouds and some other clouds are composed of a mixture of ice crystals and water droplets.

Other clouds like stratus, and fair weather cumulus clouds are composed entirely of water droplets.

Contrails spread out into cirrus clouds when the air is supersaturated. The ice crystals which form the initial contrail act as a "trigger" to cause more ice crystals to form, feeding on the existing water vapor.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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It's so ironic that those who have no issue or qualm with this phenomenon are ALWAYS the ones flinging disparaging remarks and insulting names.


Always? Have I been casting such remarks?

And I suppose you don't consider calling someone a disinfo agent, a sheep, or a shill is meant to be disparaging or insulting.




That statement is directed for those who fit the bill!
In my experience with you, you're not one of them Phage. You're about facts and opinions. I don't see you as being mean-spirited.

I'm not aware that I've used those terminologies you cited above lately. That's really not my style. But if I have in the past it's probably because I felt frustrated.

And the truth of the matter Phage is....forums do attract shills. That's a fact. I don't think you'd disagree with that.
They're put in this anonymous position to keep the crowds divided on many of these controversial matters. That can't be a revelation to you I'm sure.
But again, if I've ever used those terms, it was on a bad day after feeling beaten up on one of my own threads.

Besides being a shill isn't a bad thing. After all, it's a job and they're getting paid!
And being a sheep is a term referring to someone who is not quite awake. Again not a bad thing.
But being a 'moron' is plain old mean.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by Human_Alien
This looks like an obvious, orchestrated and deliberate operation to block out the Sun.
Please prove me wrong.


As an amateur meteorologist it looks like the expected consequences of some of the thousands of commercial airliners that fly over Britain every day, given the prevailing atmospheric conditions at the time.

I fail to see how it can be evidence of either chemtrails or geoengineering (especially the latter)????

Do you have any reason as to why TPTB or whoever were trying to block out the sun over your very very very small corner of the planet on this particular day, using techniques which frankly are not very effective. Stratocumulus blocks the sun better than cirrus every time!



I don't hold the answers you ask but being an amateur meteorologist, are you familiar with PROFESSIONAL meteorologist Scott Stevens who actually quit his full time job on a local network to pursue these chemtrails/weather modification? If not, let me introduce you to him.
Andy, meet Scott:


www.youtube.com...

weatherwars.info...



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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"Professionl meteorologist". A TV weatherman?

Heeeerrrrr's Scotty!

An Idaho weatherman says Japan's Yakuza mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge itself for the Hiroshima atom bomb attack — and that this technology will soon be wielded again to hit another U.S. city.

www.usatoday.com...



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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OP you should probably go to a doctor, you are showing signs of paranoia.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Scott Stevens is not a meteorologist.

alb.merlinone.net...


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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by flyswatter
If someone here could post just one bit of definitive proof of those being "chemtrails" and not contrails, I would eat my words. Literally - I'd print this thread and eat the paper, piece by piece. I dont really need that much more fiber in my diet, but I really have no worry, simply because this proof cannot be provided.

OP, do me a favor. Get us some proof. Any proof. If what you are saying is the truth, then the proof will be available, right? Show me the results of air sample tests, or verified pictures of the spraying mechanisms on planes, or a video of a pilot that can prove that he's been spraying. Something. Anything. Just one thing. Please. I beg.

I realize that I will come away from this request empty handed, but I have to at least give it a try.


But the proof we provide (whistle blowers, pilots, weatherman, government documents/proposals, scientists, geological testing, videos and photos) are never good enough.

The type of 'proof' I believe you're requesting is, someone of clout to make an announcement and acknowledge this phenomenon.
Much like we're all waiting for someone of clout on the UFO disclosure.
Or someone to FINALLY tell us our REAL history.

Here's the lesson: We're truly on our own. We need to stop looking to others for validation. That's where we stay locked in this prison. We know they lie. We know they have an agenda that has nothing to do with us so.....I think we've learned our lesson.

So if that's what you're waiting for (someone like an Obama or Queen or Pope or Wall Street Journal to say-so) well....I'll see ya on the flip-side and we can continue this conversation from up there!.





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