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Proof of chemtrail/geo-engineering May 11

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Watch this!

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by robbo961

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by 3danimator

Originally posted by robbo961

Originally posted by Uncinus

Originally posted by robbo961

www.scribd.com...

explain that!


It's a letter from Andreas Psoras to the CFTC.

Psoras believes in chemtrails and HAARP, and thinks the CFTC should be involved somehow, so she writes a big cut-and-paste letter to them.

This then gets promoted by Alex Jones as some kind of official admission, when really it's just your average crank letter.


whatever you say, there is no geo-enginerring program. I just made it up to confuse you. Also HAARP doesnt exist either, I made that up too. Neither does the police state, or the fed, or the thieving banksters. The world is such a happy peaceful planet and I'm just making it all up. There is no proof of anything really. Proof does not exist, only belief.


No. There is proof of police stating. There is proof of thieving bankers. Can you not see the difference?
For f**ks sake, its like talking to a bunch of toddlers, trying to explain the differences between proof/real life and made up stuff.

No one is saying the world is one big happy place. But there is enough REAL # going on without you guys having to make up stuff like Haarp and chemtrails.
edit on 16-5-2012 by 3danimator because: (no reason given)


Hey now, check yourself son! HAARP does exist! Just not as the weather manipulation, earthquake causing, blackmail enforcing destruction machine that some think.

But really, some people you just cant reach. There are some people here that just dont understand what evidence is. Those people scream that persistent contrails dont exist, chemtrails are the only ones that linger, aluminum is being used to block the sun, this is the start of population control, its only used where there are holes in the ozone layer, etc ... hell, the chemtrailers cant even get their own stories straight.

Facepalming, but too lazy to paste the ASCII for it.


So what is the purpose of HAARP? seriously, I really want to know


HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.

Quoted from the site itself. No, I do not believe that this facility creates earthquakes or controls hurricanes. This is another one of those proof issues.

Next.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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If they were experimenting with 'something' nearly 70 years ago can you imagine how they perfected and are utilizing the dispersant by now?

We still don't know their intent(s) but to deny this is doing a disservice to anyone's' conscious because you're making it battle it out with your subconscious that knows better!

It's okay...we're all suffering from truth-aches lately.

Fascinating little clip!!!!

Amazing Footage of WWII Chemtrail Experiments



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by robbo961
Watch this!

www.youtube.com...



LOL. You should've added ....when you have 4 hours to spare!

Thanks for sharing just the same

(check out the last short video I just added. It's amazing but...in a bad way)



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by robbo961
Watch this!

www.youtube.com...



LOL. You should've added ....when you have 4 hours to spare!

Thanks for sharing just the same

(check out the last short video I just added. It's amazing but...in a bad way)


Ha ha, I thought it would shut all my hecklers up for a few hours



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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I know about the proposals to disperse sulfur. That's all they are...proposals. I am quite aware of the theory behind it and it has little to do with being "reflective", micron sized particles don't really reflect a lot. The term used is "scattering" and it involves particular wavelengths of radiation.

You said that persistent contrails would mitigate warming. I asked you about the studies which show that contrails cause positive forcing. You have not addressed my question. In case your professor didn't tell you about these studies, here are a few:
www.ipcc.ch...
www.nature.com...
www.agu.org...

Or are you claiming that persistent contrails are something other than ice crystals? Did your professor tell you that?


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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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It only makes sense in the larger context. world population reduction programs and creating a climate for the monopoly on food production. (monsanto make seeds that are resistant to the chemicals being sprayed). These are of course 'conspiracy theories' but why indeed? good question.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by robbo961
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It only makes sense in the larger context. world population reduction programs and creating a climate for the monopoly on food production. (monsanto make seeds that are resistant to the chemicals being sprayed). These are of course 'conspiracy theories' but why indeed? good question.




Got it. It makes no sense. You carry on believing. Have fun.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by 3danimator
Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense


They might be under the impression and mission they're doing something positive like....reflect dangerous radiation back towards the Sun..... so they're doing a good thing. Even though it's under a very secretive and sensitive operation...it's still a good cause!

Or maybe these are MK-Ultra victim/pilots under some hypnotic brainwashing.

Or maybe....these are UAV's crafts being piloted from the ground.

There are a ton of possibilities as to 'how' these planes are flying. That part is hardly the proverbial kink in the chain!



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by 3danimator
Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense


Somehow I get the feeling you're picturing these pilots dressed in black slacks and white button down shirts, donning some type of wing pin on their lapel and stripes on their sleeves....greeting passengers with a handshake and smile, as he stands next to the cockpit door!.

I think the reality of whose behind the controls may be a little different than you're imagining.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by 3danimator
Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense


Do you drive a car?

In which case why do you deliberately poison the air that you and your loved ones breathe?


But in the case of chem/contrails, all they are doing is increasing cirrus cloud with a small net increase in global temps (not particularly significant) and perhaps slightly more concerning, making clear blue skies less common (again though, not particularly significant for most people). Though it does annoy me that no-one who complains about chem/contrails ever openly admits to refusing to fly .....

Obviously they are not deliberately geoengineering because to do this they'd need to be flying higher and predominantly around the tropics. And there's no evidence (nor any reason to believe) that any such operation would be visible from the ground.
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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by 3danimator
Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense


Here is a possible explanation as to why these planes are so secretive and who might (not be) piloting them.
I realize this was 8000. So spare me the altitude diatribe. If this was caught at 8000 there is no reason to think they're not at 30,000

and to:

reply to post by pianopraze
 


Here is validation why the planes (that you and I see) do NOT show up on FlightAware like we said!





posted on May, 16 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by 3danimator
Will non of you believers reply to my question as to why on earth these people would do something to the very same air that they and their loved ones have to breath?

It makes no sense


Here is a possible explanation as to why these planes are so secretive and who might (not be) piloting them.
I realize this was 8000. So spare me the altitude diatribe. If this was caught at 8000 there is no reason to think they're not at 30,000

and to:

reply to post by pianopraze
 


Here is validation why the planes (that you and I see) do NOT show up on FlightAware like we said!




Ok, summarize a bit here -

Do you think all contrails that persist for a long period of time are in fact "chemtrails"?

Do you believe that passenger jets are the ones doing the spraying that you speak of, or is it done only by jets that dont show up for us normal folk on flightaware?

Is all of this spraying being done by way of a fuel additive (thus going through the engines), or do you think that there are planes equipped with an extra mechanism to do this?


If this has been going on for such a long period of time, and all over the world, there's something proving it, right? Somewhere? Anywhere? Give me a picture of the mechanism on the plane doing the spraying, that would go a long way it pushing more people onto the chemtrail bandwagon.

I'm almost at a loss for words, its baffling as to how people truely believe that its true "because they see the trails up there" or "there are patents for equipment capable of this, so it must be happening". Maybe I'll take a bit more time to gather my thoughts when I'm home from work or something. Bleh.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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No. In fact I was going to have this slogan embroidered on a pillow for Phage for father's day seeing he constantly chastises my posts and attempts to correct them as if I were his child...... but here's what I think.

Not all contrails are chemtrails. But, ALL chemtrails are NOT contrails.

But here's my point. I really don't care what's in these trails. I don't care if they're spraying water from the Fountain of Youth....I care about the blockage of Sunlight.

If this is a persistent contrail phenomenon (which, it's not but...) then at minimum there should be a proposal/bill sitting on the Presidents desk ...mandating less air traffic in and around this country starting immediately.

Because I don't know about you but I rather witness a million irate travelers who are inconvenienced when there are less flights to choose from then......have my vegetation turning brown or not growing. Which then has a ripple effect on the entire ecosystem.

So either way: innocent contrails or nefarious chemtrails matters not to me. They need to stop.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by 3danimator

Originally posted by robbo961
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It only makes sense in the larger context. world population reduction programs and creating a climate for the monopoly on food production. (monsanto make seeds that are resistant to the chemicals being sprayed). These are of course 'conspiracy theories' but why indeed? good question.




Got it. It makes no sense. You carry on believing. Have fun.


Will do. Now for a nice refreshing can of soda with extra aspartame. glug glug (yummy) ah, you can have the last word if like, I promise I won't comeback



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by flyswatter
Give me a picture of the mechanism on the plane doing the spraying.


Got 10 minutes?





posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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This is enough. I provided videos and photos. I kindly suggest you do your own research because unless I come up with something that possesses the slogan "Chemtrail Plane" this will never be good enough so I'm not going to waste anymore time.

But good luck in your search. Hope you get freed from denial soon!





www.darkgovernment.com...



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
This is enough. I provided videos and photos. I kindly suggest you do your own research because unless I come up with something that possesses the slogan "Chemtrail Plane" this will never be good enough so I'm not going to waste anymore time.

But good luck in your search. Hope you get freed from denial soon!





www.darkgovernment.com...


Do you have any idea about the picture that you linked there?

"This one is the “Mk.32 drogue-type underwing pod on the Armée de l’Air Boeing C-135FR Stratotanker” (“93-CC”- s/n 63-8472 of GRV 93). It’s an in-flight refueling system on a French Boeing C-135FR Stratotanker, photographed in Canada, Feb 2005."

Here's the link to see this information, where there is also a picture of three jets in flight, preparing to use this in-flight refueling system:
contrailscience.com...



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by flyswatter


Do you have any idea about the picture that you linked there?





And did YOU know I knew you would say something like that?

You look to contrail science for information?
I look to chemtrail central for mine.

So we can go around this mulberry bush for hours but I think I've had enough.
Again, good luck!

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