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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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So, it looks like it's official, which makes me sad. ATS, what are your opinions on this matter?

The main question I have, why continue to seek delegates, when you are pretty much removing yourself from the nomination. Would someone be able to clarify if I am misunderstanding this?


Doesn't matter. We can still vote for WHOMEVER we wish as President. Many people forget that. Whether he's the Republican candidate, or even actively running, we can still vote for him.


Does this remove any chance of him becoming President?


I didn't think anyone honestly believes he'd be elected by the majority of the public and/or the Electoral College (most average people hardly even know who he is, because their head is just that much in the sand). However, it is my hope that he pulls a decent enough number, to at least send a message that some of us are aware that we do NOT have to pick from the two they try and force-feed us. Whether Romney gets it (unlikely, even if Paul didn't exist), or Obama gets re-elected (travesty that it is, it will happen almost certainly), it's still 4 more years of corporate puppetry and a do-nothing Presidency. Either one of them will just be warming the bench.


but in reality, the media is helping Ron Paul by lulling to sleep the Romney supporters, who now will forget to show up at state conventions because they think it's all a wrap.


An interesting theory, but I have to think that those dedicated enough to Politics to show up at state conventions will still be there regardless.



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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Ya got me there.

When I wrote the post originally I was going by the tabulated poll results listed on the webpage from November of 2011 to the present, not from the graphic. Paul was still averaging 15% support.

When I uploaded the graphic I noticed that the table started from January of 2011 and so edited my post to reflect that. I never saw the 2008 reference until you pointed it out.



I'm guessing that 2008 was a date that was somehow left on the template for the graph for some reason. It must have some significance. I can't imagine it simply being an oversight.

Maybe they simply continued to track various personalities from the earlier campaign, running the same program to create the graph since 2008.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by 4hero
The BBC never really cover RP, but all of a sudden decide to cover this story. They didn't paint a great picture of him either, this is some of what they wrote...

"The 76-year-old, a former obstetrician-gynaecologist, has a small base of staunch supporters and enjoys popularity among many younger voters.

In the 2012 election campaign, Mr Paul was consistently ranked in the middle of the pack, neither rising to challenge Mr Romney's front-runner status nor trailing at the bottom of opinion polls.

But he was viewed by the Republican establishment as a candidate outside party orthodoxy, and he did not manage to win a single primary election".

Also this: "Mr Paul has 104 delegates, behind Mitt Romney's 966, with 1,144 delegates needed to secure the nomination".

It shouldn't take tens of millions to win this campaign, it should be a no-brainer for the masses, but when all the MSN are part of the fraud it does not help RP's campaign.


If you are referring to the BBC news site, they have given him coverage - not as much perhaps as the other contenders over the last few weeks, but then what would they write - what is there to write? Romney has been leading for quite a while so it's only reasonable to expect he would get more coverage. Go to the news homepage and search by his name, it returns quite a few hits based on his performance in the polls to date.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual
It seems like there are a lot of anti-Paul people here trying to turn this into something it isn't. I guess they like to spin things like this to give people the impression that the person they dislike is out.

So what part of this are you idiots not reading properly, perhaps someone who can actually understand English can draw you a picture to better explain it to you?

Paul is not wasting money on pointless campaigning, he is still gaining support to influence the party. I can understand this, why is it so hard for so many idiots on ATS to comprehend this VERY CLEAR STATEMENT OF FACT?


So following your logic, campaigning was pointless from the beginning - you made the statement so either agree with it or agree it's you who are the idiot. If it was and is pointless, why do it in the first place.

Just because you are showing yourself as being an idiot, not buying into the RP hype in the same hysterical way as a lot of people on ATS does not make you 'anti Paul', it means not believing the often overhyped threads on this site and people have every right to question them - you may or may not like that, that is your business, but discussion threads would be very boring if everyone agreed with each other, even if some people would rather call others idiots for having a different point of view from their own.............. wouldn't you?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
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Ya got me there.

When I wrote the post originally I was going by the tabulated poll results listed on the webpage from November of 2011 to the present, not from the graphic. Paul was still averaging 15% support.

When I uploaded the graphic I noticed that the table started from January of 2011 and so edited my post to reflect that. I never saw the 2008 reference until you pointed it out.



I'm guessing that 2008 was a date that was somehow left on the template for the graph for some reason. It must have some significance. I can't imagine it simply being an oversight.

Maybe they simply continued to track various personalities from the earlier campaign, running the same program to create the graph since 2008.
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I asked dozens of people in person and all of them claim they have never been polled for politicians before.

What does that tell you about the accuracy of these polls?
Something tells me the poll reveals more about what the entity polling wants to say rather than what people here on the ground level actually think.

Easy science experiment. Just ask people you meet/know in RL. Just how accurate are these polls?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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I'm guessing that 2008 was a date that was somehow left on the template for the graph for some reason. It must have some significance. I can't imagine it simply being an oversight.


Those are links, one to the 2008 primary race as of the current date so you can compare. And one for the entire 2008 primary, also for comparison.

I know people have been confused by this in the past...but I'm not sure why...it is very clear to me.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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RP is going directly for the delegates.


seems like a good plan.
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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by AntiNWO

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by AntiNWO

Originally posted by dron020
Ron Paul supporters should now unite with the OWS


Yeah sure, we should all join the Obama lovefest...



Only united can we take down the Banking Cartel.


I'm all for that, but according to OWS "taking down the banking cartel" apparently means socialism, which is what TPTB are already working towards. No thanks.


If you really knew anything about politics you would not be making such absurd comments.

You have no idea what socialism, communism, capitalism are. It is just the McCarthy propaganda you remember. Or you are really, really, really wealthy and I don't have to call you a moron. Which is it?


So you admit to being a socialist, or is it Communist? Good for you, and good luck with that.

And sorry buddy, but I know about politics all too well. I am too young to remember McCarthyism and old enough to have lived through the Cold War. I had a friend who defected from the Soviet Union, I had friends from other Communist countries also, and I learned more from them over the years than you can imagine, so don't pretend to know what I know.

Communism and Socialism by their very nature create an elitist minority that holds down the majority financially, socially, and intellectually. It's rife with abuses that would make Wall Street envious. Capitalism, even with all it's flaws, is still the best system we have. It encourages competition and innovation which is directly responsible for all the fancy gadgets that you depend on every day. There is no incentive to produce, let alone innovate in Socialism or Communism. If you knew anything about politics you'd know that. Why should you produce when everything you need will be provided by the government no matter what? Why should you innovate when any reward you reap will be taken by the government? The reality is that without the Capitalist system our technology would be stuck in the 1920's.

The bottom line is this: If you want Socialism, sit back, relax, and do nothing. Thanks to Obama we're halfway there and he and Romney are both working to achieve the same end.
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Well all the bilderberger puppets like obama and romney are for marxist globalist policies.

RP is a right wing libertarian running in a GOP election.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Since Ron Paul has dropped out, you do realize that if you continue to vote for him it will still count as a vote for Obama, right?

It will only take votes away from Romney and only help Obama in the long run.

Please don't take this to mean I support Obama or Romney, since they're both the same corporate stooges, I don't support either of them.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual
It seems like there are a lot of anti-Paul people here trying to turn this into something it isn't. I guess they like to spin things like this to give people the impression that the person they dislike is out.

So what part of this are you idiots not reading properly, perhaps someone who can actually understand English can draw you a picture to better explain it to you?

Paul is not wasting money on pointless campaigning, he is still gaining support to influence the party. I can understand this, why is it so hard for so many idiots on ATS to comprehend this VERY CLEAR STATEMENT OF FACT?


Nobody is spinning anything except Paul supporters. He is no longer going to campaign. If he thought he had a snowballs chance in hell of getting anywhere, he would be campaigning like crazy and raising more money as fast as possible.

Santorum stops actively campaigning = he dropped out.
Gingrich stops actively campaigning = he dropped out.
Cain stops actively campaigning = he dropped out.

Ron Paul stops actively campaigning = MSM lies, cover-up, fraud, and most importantly...he just changed his strategy because he's so smart and will win it all, you watch and see!



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Ok. Let me try to get this straight…
Santorum- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Bachman- quit spending money- suspended her campaign
Gingrich- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Paul- quit spending money…still hoping?



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
We can still vote for WHOMEVER we wish as President. Many people forget that. Whether he's the Republican candidate, or even actively running, we can still vote for [Paul].


Actually if you write in Paul, you can actuallly vote for two people.
One vote for Paul is actually another vote for Obama.

Who said this wasn't a great country where people can vote twice and not even be from Chicago.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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The latest communication from the campaign to the supporters admits they can't win the nomination.


Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.

All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by PaxVeritas
I encourage all Ron Paul supporters to push like never before now.

Delegate level, volunteering, convention level, primary registration, etc.

We're up against big money with Obumber and Mittens.

Donate what you can and give your time when you can.

No mercy, no heads down, no defeat.



I think you need to sit down and have a long talk with Dr. Phil.

It's over. It was great while it lasted but Ron Paul ran out of money.

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posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing
Ok. Let me try to get this straight…
Santorum- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Bachman- quit spending money- suspended her campaign
Gingrich- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Paul- quit spending money…still hoping?


Don't forget Herman Cain. Remember the Cain Train?

9 / 9 / 9 Tax Plan

He also suspended his campaign.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing
Ok. Let me try to get this straight…
Santorum- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Bachman- quit spending money- suspended her campaign
Gingrich- quit spending money- suspended his campaign.
Paul- quit spending money…still hoping?


Don't forget that with the news of each dropping out, it was heralded as great news for the Ron Paul camp. He was somehow going to get all of the supporters from those failed campaigns.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Check the polling data.

Everyone is falling in line with Romney.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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Check the polling data.

Everyone is falling in line with Romney.



As would be expected. I'm not sure why, when Ron Paul and his campaign staff have already made it perfectly clear that their goal at this point is to get a prime speaking spot at the convention, his supporters fail to accept even his own words regarding his campaign.



posted on May, 15 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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Check the polling data.

Everyone is falling in line with Romney.



As would be expected. I'm not sure why, when Ron Paul and his campaign staff have already made it perfectly clear that their goal at this point is to get a prime speaking spot at the convention, his supporters fail to accept even his own words regarding his campaign.



Give it just a few more days.

By June 1, 2012 the Ron Paul reality distortion field will collapse altogether.

They are all welcome at the Tea Party.



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