Originally posted by ManFromEurope
reply to post by Outofcontrol
Why should China decide to invade the US? They are getting wealthier the minute by just playing along. No need to invade.
In my opinion, the next big (like, REALLY BIG) problem will be something like a virus or a disease spreading unusually fast. That would bring every
state in the world to its knees.
mate, I didnt say they would invade the US, I said they have the capability - which most americans dont recognize as a real threat.
I dont see any reason for them to invade the US, since the US is almost theirs by definition, but... lets say you actually want to drive that car you
Like mr bunny there, ppl must be aware that shouldnt rely on words like "unbeatable" or "unsinkable" since history told us already many times
about how ironically it finds a way to treat those words.
Plus the US arent ready, logistically nor psychologically to face a "great war" - I honestly think that if the US ever faces an opponent like china,
at first they will unite, but at the signs of loss, people will revolt, will close themselves into "against war" communities and the US faces the
possibility of having the country shattered into "smaller independent countries" (unions of states, like the southern ones who can live on their own
without dc's bs) and a strong anti-war sentiment, right now considering how things already are, will divide the country.
So I'm not seeing the US entering any major conflict that involves a huge death toll...
On the other hand, if you take a look and the mentality of those countries that can invade the US either alone or by coalition, its very different.
The chinese can die by the millions on a war effort, the russian its either "shoot or I'll shoot you myself so keep pushing forward no matter the
losses", Iran can take care of all that proxy area - the US has a strong military presence in the middle east, but nothing china cant take on a
single sweep and let iran police the rest of the "leftovers" (after israel's been dealt with - Israel tho is a wild card, it can by itself set a
non-conventional war, by using its nuclear capability which in return will be completely obliterated by Russia / China coalition - it will simply
disappear from the known world for noone allows the use of nuclear weapons and no attack with that kind of weapon will pass unpunished). Now Russia
can challenge europe. It poses no threat to europe, on a conventional scenario tho. Europe can hold against russia, BUT, again the mentality is very
different. At the sign of massive losses, Europe is an old world, plagued by a thousand years of war - it cant take it anymore, they're tired of
it... the last europe had was 2 great wars in a 50 year period affecting every single country, noones willing to go through that again - and europe
will shatter as a "union".
You have no one that can face the "red tide"... No one. If that "red tide" decides to spring into action by military means, they will have no
opponent. The US is spread all over the middle east - you really think if all their troops were decimated in a week by chinese or russian
intervention, that you could defend your own territory? well... you would at first, until every single american starts to see bodies on the street and
says "no". You see, China, Russia, Iran, and even NK (which ppl so dumbly make fun of) will be a very useful asset - they have one of the biggest
armies on earth with about 1 million active and 8 MILLION (yes EIGHT) on reserve ready on a snap of fingers. It is a most valuable asset - then you
say "oh but they dont even have food" and crap like that... well if something like this happens, rest assure that China will sponsor NK with
everything they need to keep their army "healthy" - and we know how they are when motivated - the will and mentality of orientals mixed with
german-ss-like fierce (we're talking about fighting to the last man here, with 9 million men)
And on the middle of all of this, we got the arabs. Well the arabs might decide to make a move on southern europe cause you know, old grudges dont
fade. I dont think they'd use military means, but rather a "passive" ocupation of southern europe to compensate for the "reconquista" that
portugal and spain did to them, driving them off the mediterranean on to africa.
This is just a very ugly game of chess to the US and they know that a war with Iran or a stupid israeli surprise attack on iran can be trigger to all
of this and thats why it didnt happen yet. The us is holding israel like you hold a rabid dog by the leash while hes crazy to go bite something - the
us is trying really hard to stop israel from starting a war that even the US sees as unwinnable.
The world is getting really hot, really fast... this is the real "global warming". And I'm just talking about major players.