I like ATS. It has a great mix of people. I find it to be somewhat of a political microcosmos. Its a great place to debate political issues with
people that have differing opinions. I really value it when someone changes my mind about something and that has happened here on ATS a few times.
I am from the left and I always have been. I have been interested in politics since I was about 10. I am Australian. I remember asking my Dad the
difference between labor and liberal and he told me that rich people vote for liberals and poor people vote for labor.(our liberal party are the
conservatives,confusing I know). Dads short simple discription was actually pretty good.Labors strength is with the unions and they are left. Liberal
are for business and are right. My family is working class so I decided I was a labor supporter. I remember as a kid I was very worried about them
introducing the GST. I was a kid in 1991 when the liberals were pushing for it and was happy when Keating beat Hewson. I remember Alexander Downer
when he became opposition leader. Not many kids are worried about this kind of stuff. Your average Australian think GST only came up when Howard
pushed for it and introduced it in 1998. I hated the Nationals(conservative farmers) for helping him get it in. Anyway,the point is I was on the Left
before I was a teenager and into my teens.
Also,being a teen in the 90's made me liberal(not the Australian conservative Liberal Party 'liberal' but a liberal as opposed to conservative). The
90's were the most political correct times in history. Way worse than now. it was all save the whales,protect the ozone,African American
rights,recycle,gay mardi gras..... So the 90's galvanized my liberal opinions.
As a young adult around the year 2000. I wasnt very political. I was still left but busy with things. The world seemed ok. Then Im watching tv one
night with an ex-girlfriend and the news takes over the tv showing New York and the Twin Towers. One of the towers has smoke pouring from the top. I
see people jumping from windows. I see a plane come flying along and smash into the other tower. Im thinking,oh my #ing god. i see a tower fall. Then
I see another. I see world leaders messages to America coming across the screen including from Saddam. All are saying they are shocked and will help.
Im trying to think who would do this? I watched American 24 hour news for the next few months. It was all i did. In that time I see the US Army sent
to Afghanistan to kill Afghanis. I was shocked that no media questioned this action. Just blind support. But worse,I see that soon after the attack
America is bombing Government buildings in iraq. This was a civillian area. I was outraged. Im wondering why on earth are America dropping bombs on
innocent people. The news said they were trying to target Saddam and his family. Like that made it ok. i still havent gotten over it. Only a small
part of the people of the west seemed to care or even notice. We all know it only got worse from there.
So while the War on terror is being kicked off,Im still left and liberal and very ant-war. People like me waited years to get rid of Howard in
Australia nad bush in America. I was so happy when that happened. Finally,we would end the wars and killing. But oh no. The left parties turn out to
be as bad,if not worse. The wars and killing continue.
So now I could see that liberals were morons if they were to buy in to the democrat bs talking points and distractions. I could see how the democrats
fooled minorities and made chumps of them. I didnt become a fan of th Republican Party but I started to see that conservatives were correct on more
issues and less hysterical about stupid non-issue distractions. I found socialism which is mostly considered to be on the left and does not make you
think of conservatives. most conservatives are actually McCarthyist when it comes to socialism and do silly things like call Obama a socialist.
So I had evolved into a socialist that hated liberals and prefered conservatives. I was a Socialist that was against affirmaitive action. A socialist
that was against charity. A socialist that was against corrupt unions. A socialist that was against distraction type liberal bs like the recent push
to stop calling 'illegals' illegals. A socialist that places little importance on gay political issues. We have more important, more pressing things
to worry about than the right of two guys being able to wed after all.
I dont agree with your average 'conservative' on many things. But I consider myself to be a conservative socialist. I like National Socialism. I like
the idea of Autarky. My favourite ATS member is a conservative socialist. he has given me direction and although we dont agree on all exactly I value
and appreciate his opinions. They have helped me evolve.
So I guess my point is that not all socialists are limp wrisred hysterical naive liberals.No self respecting socialist would vote for Obama. Jerry
White is not realistic so the socialists choice is Ron Paul. He is far from ticking every box for the socialsit but he ticks more than Obama or
And us real socialists need a force of our own. The SEC and the like do far too much pandering to liberals. And every national Socialist group seems
to be racist. We need a real socialist party. We need a socialist party for the real socialist.
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