The World Order - It Isn't New

Everything in this world feeds on the system. Rich, poor, homeless, republican, democrat, christian, jew, muslim, American, Iranian, North Korean, or Russian.

Everything is organized and master minded by the system. We are all pawns. Presidents and paupers. We all feed a system we have been indoctrinated since birth to follow. This post probably falls into it, somehow.

You fight and fight to reveal the 'Truth' in your everyday lives. You post here, picket elsewhere, and battle with every grain of your being for what you believe to be 'Right'... yet you never can be. We are all suffering under the weight of this endless cycle, trying to make our way in the world, but in the end, nothing we do changes anything. Nothing we do CAN change anything.

This isn't to say that everything we do is pointless. This isn't about Nihilism. I believe there is a point and purpose to everything that happens - 'The End is Nigh' is not my statement. I am simply stating that this entire existence, this entire mathematical problem, comes down to a system.

Did Al-Qaeda organize the 9/11 attacks? Yes. It resulted in irrational government spending in the United States, which aided, in part, with our financial issues, which in turn, resulted in other nations increasing their presence in the world market, which downplays the need of the United States as time goes on. Due to the heightened presence of the United States in the Middle East after these attacks, worldwide approval of the nation declines. As approval declines, fears within and without arise. As those fears rise, trust wanes. As trust wanes, fear increases, and the cycle continues.

And 9/11 isn't some starting point to this, it simply is the continuation of this ongoing system. World War I led to the Treaty of Versailles (and other similar accords), which resulted in the economic collapse of the Weimar Republic, which led to the rise of the National Socialist Workers Party, which led to the rise of the Nazi Regime, and the onset of World War II, which in turn lead to the rise of both the United States and the Soviet Union as the two dominant world powers, which then lead us through the Cold War (and related conflicts such as the Korean and Vietnam Wars, etc).

If one of these things didn't happen, the rest would never happen. The world simply trudges on as this system holds it to. Is this all dominated by some force? God? Man? The Illuminati? That, one can't know. No one can. Those who claim knowledge of these topics simply play into this system. They keep the world from realizing that no matter what is done, it can not be escaped.

Did NASA fake the moon landing? Does it matter? The rise of the Cold War resulted in the Space Race. The Space Race resulted in the Moon Landing (Real, Fake, or Inbetween), the Moon Landing resulted into the the (era dependent) victory of the Space Race, which resulted in continued missions, leading right up to the International Space Station, and towards cooperation from the world's powers.

Does every nation have its own desires, wants, and needs in this world? Of course they do. Every pocket dictator, president, king, and religious leader wants their own agendas met and fulfilled. But their success and failure simply falls into line to aid another in their success and failure, which in turn aids the system in its continued push in maintaining some teetered balance.

Whatever force it is that controls this, if it is intelligent or not, is what controls you. Did you wake up late for work? Did you get fired? You got fired based on a string of events that started before your parents ever met. Did your boss accept your apology, pat you on the back, and say don't do it again, now get to work? Your boss forgave your mistake because of the same system. The same string of events.

Can one look to the future and see the patterns? Maybe. Can I? No. I would never make such claims... but mathematics is the universal language. It is the way the universe speaks - and while we may not be able to hear it, I think we can understand it, if only we tried. But that is not to say that these attempts need result in anything but understanding - not to attempt to predict the future and plot its course, but instead to understand that we, no matter what race, religion, or creed we come from, are all apart of it. We are all suffering and prospering through it... and someday, maybe, we'll understand it.

It is a cycle which has been repeated for aeons.

At the end of this particular cycle, which is coming to climax, something new must be done before total annihilation.

Reboot.

The Man must turn full circle to face his past and pay the due retribution. In doing so he will defeat that ancient serpent which represents time as it devours its own tail.

Rebirth.

These are the labor pains the world is watching.

Originally posted by EfficacyOfTruth
Everything is organized and master minded by the system. We are all pawns. Presidents and paupers. We all feed a system we have been indoctrinated since birth to follow. This post probably falls into it, somehow.... Nothing we do CAN change anything.

I am simply stating that this entire existence, this entire mathematical problem, comes down to a system.

...If one of these things didn't happen, the rest would never happen. Whatever force it is that controls this, if it is intelligent or not, is what controls you...

Can one look to the future and see the patterns? Maybe...

Is it that you are suggesting, if we knew enough and could connect up all the dots, we could understand the mechanisms and flows of events that have made everything happen as it has, and perhaps predict what is going to happen? I wonder if we really could, because of two connected things - chaotic systems and free will. I see the way things work as a dynamic containing a number of possibilities at every turn, and which possibility either comes to fruition by chance or is chosen then has a knock-on effect to the set of possibilities that follows on.

Against my theory it might be argued by a religious person that God already knows everything that is going to happen - but in defence I would argue that there is a third component of the nature of time, which is not linear for God. What you seem to be suggesting is that we are in the grip of a self-perpetuating and cyclical system, rather than a God - but I am not sure from what you write.

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I don't believe it is one of many cycles. If such a cycle were to end, only to create another, that cycle as well is part of a greater system. But then again, I believe that future predictions are simply that - predictions, and those that are based on absolutely zero testable evidence aren't even predictions - they are grand imagination.

Perhaps, though, if this system could be recognized, if not understood... perhaps that is the point of it. Should humanity begin to understand that the 'Wrongs' committed against them aren't in fact committed by the individuals and groups they blame, but instead are wholly dependent on this equation, balance could be achieved between people. Because as understanding grows, the (and I understand, very human) need for revenge could be quashed. As one person takes note, the wrongdoer takes note, or perhaps a bystander. Someone.

I believe in free will, but I also believe that everything happens - and through an attempt to see this system - everything happens for a reason. What is the ultimate goal of that reason? Perhaps what I stated above. More than likely, something else.

We are all cogs in this clock. Round and round it goes... some cogs may be bigger, some small... some may move more parts, others less... but they are all there. They are all needed.

Every event in human history HAD to happen. But every event in the future comes through this system. This order. The choices we make are entirely determined by the choices of ours and others pasts. They are still choices, and while you do make them based on your own free will, once you make them, they are the one and only possibility. They add to this mathematical formula.

Originally posted by AManYouALL
It is a cycle which has been repeated for aeons.

At the end of this particular cycle, which is coming to climax, something new must be done before total annihilation... These are the labor pains the world is watching.

This seems to reflect what St Paul thought (Romans 8:19, all creation waits...). He basically thought that at the end of this age, the events around the Second Coming would occur. Is that your thought, or are you thinking more along the lines of what happened with the dinosaurs, or something else?

Do you think we are coming to the end of this age, if so how rapidly?

Originally posted by EfficacyOfTruth
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Perhaps, though, if this system could be recognized, if not understood... perhaps that is the point of it. Should humanity begin to understand that the 'Wrongs' committed against them aren't in fact committed by the individuals and groups they blame, but instead are wholly dependent on this equation, balance could be achieved between people. Because as understanding grows, the (and I understand, very human) need for revenge could be quashed. ... reason...

Agree that people who do wrong to others (or anything else) are shaped, and their choices determined by a dynamic that is only partially understood, and they are probably far less self-determined than those who want to take revenge tend to think. I am interested, though, in your use of the word "reason" because that is not entirely the same as "predetermination". It implies choice by a controller of the system.

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Like I stated, there is surely a hand writing the equation. What is that hand? Unknowable? Perhaps.

The arrogance of believing we could know the originator of this system is something that I, or anyone else for that matter, could not possibly begin to have. Does this system make things such as the various Gods believed all over our world void? No. I don't believe so. If the Christian God (for example) exists, then he too is apart of this system. This order stretches so far beyond the 'known' that it is capable of permeating all things. If God is real, then his existence is only true to continue this equation.

But again, who can possibly know?

Predetermination is not what this is about. Everything happens for REASONS, but not everything that happens is assured. This is why one can not look at this mathematical system from the Omega to Alpha... it simply goes Alpha to Infinite... Omega may be the final sum of everything, but only whatever it is that is behind (and most likely, still apart of) the system will see it. I doubt they will even truly know it when they do. For even if our small world ends, it ends with a reason to continue something else. Are our individual actions important in this? Oh yes. Everything we do (or choose not to do), inevitably adds needed factors to it.

I do believe there are those out there that have understood more of this than I or anyone else we could personally know could. I am sure, in the grand history of not only this infinitely small blue orb, but the entirety of existence, there have been beings, be they human, alien, or other, that have at least come into the barest small shadows of what one could call the very beginnings of understanding... but in the end, I don't know if even that is something we could ever truly "know".

Originally posted by Anthony2

Originally posted by AManYouALL
It is a cycle which has been repeated for aeons.

At the end of this particular cycle, which is coming to climax, something new must be done before total annihilation... These are the labor pains the world is watching.

This seems to reflect what St Paul thought (Romans 8:19, all creation waits...). He basically thought that at the end of this age, the events around the Second Coming would occur. Is that your thought, or are you thinking more along the lines of what happened with the dinosaurs, or something else?

Do you think we are coming to the end of this age, if so how rapidly?

Oh how I would love to share my thoughts on the matter. If only they were not so irrelevant, then perhaps joy might be found in such an endeavor.

They are irrelevant though. Therefore I try to limit myself to cantankerous ramblings which I hope leave nothing but the impression of a grumpy old man.

In the end, all that needs be said has already been said. Now is the time where each part moves into it's respective position, aligned to the truth which it was designed for, for a purpose it hardly understands.

Forgive me.

Originally posted by EfficacyOfTruth
I don't believe it is one of many cycles. If such a cycle were to end, only to create another, that cycle as well is part of a greater system. But then again, I believe that future predictions are simply that - predictions, and those that are based on absolutely zero testable evidence aren't even predictions - they are grand imagination.

I suppose you're right.

When has this generation seen a bonafide Prophet at work?

It has been so long one would be justified in ridiculing the prophets of old as mere myths and superstition.

Justified yes, correct, no.

The current NWO came around during the Industrial revolution and created the infrastructure for it.They have been working behind the scenes since then with money.

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I suppose your right.

When has this generation seen a bonafide Prophet at work?

It has been so long one would be justified in ridiculing the prophets of old as mere myths and superstition.

Justified yes, correct, no

I am not ridiculing the prophets of old. I am not saying anything that any of them did, such as Jesus Christ, is meaningless. I am simply saying that even their actions work into this never ending system. Perhaps God and his son, our savior, did truly understand this complex universal system... but they are still apart of it. Perhaps their true understanding of it is what lead Jesus Christ to teach us to love our enemies, and to turn the other cheek. As stated earlier, if humanity could realize the wrongdoings of others were due to the this endless mathematical equation, perhaps we could be so much better to one another.

Like I said, I don't pretend to know anything about this. Honestly, it was a thought that brewed for awhile and I decided to throw it out there. Like anything on this site, you can take it or leave it. I won't be offended. I promise.