This is a discussion about wether or not a Booming Slapper is needed from the Point.......NewAgeSys didnt think so but everyone else did.Just another
day at the office.
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I always enjoy your perspectives Jason,they are incredibly insightfull and help flesh out how NHLers think,thank you again.
Now that the formalities are out of the way lets get down to biscuits and bones OK Dog?
The BOOM is a mirage,it is a dream,it is a stats catalysed false/positive of the highest degree,and one of my personal favorite examples of why stats
are destroying your old profession from the inside out.
BOOM = B.S
Stats sales job....says...the BOOM gives you a two-fer-one...2 high speed shot opporunitys out of one playaction.
Sounds great,sounds fantastic ... but smells like pure B.S.
The "Boom" gives you what all false marketing campaigns give you NOTHING WORTH BUYING....something with so many hidden costs you always lose more than
you gain.
Its like buying something from a door-to-door Vacume Cleaner Salesman or some other con-job.
What does the Boom really give you?
One hurried unsupported low grade Slapshot....and a "chance" at a fortuitous unsupported re-bound.
You PAY with 100% secure and supported Possesion/Zone entry and you recieve half-measures of impact in return.
You SURRENDER care and control and you willingly put your fate in the hands of Chaos.
Jason, your choice of tactic is stats catalysed there-fore by PROXY it is flawed and inferior.
If you used Intuitive Dynamic Management and Intuitive Dynamic Analysis to valuate and re-structure the playaction you could execute in an OPTIMAL
manner, then Jason you would be doing what "some" Oilers have been doing since Pat Quinn was the Head Coach,because these philosophies and concepts
were developed right here in Edmonton beginning at that time,they haad no names and they were in their infancy but they were born then.
Ralph Kruegers Roster was creating OPTIMAL DYNAMICS and was "speeding up" the process on the PP by executing some of these NewAge Hockey System
concepts and tactics via osmosis from online data content.They were using SUPERIOR and OPTIMAL tactics which CANNOT be developed from stats based or
traditionally concieved catalysts.They did NOT use the "Boom".
The "Boom" is now only an "Echo" of what it once was,stats inputs are being flushed out of the systems of the most sucessfull NHL teams over the last
4 years.I will point out that Sutter STOPPED people from referring to his Team as a "Defensive" Team long ago,by succinctly pointing out that they are
in fact a "Possesion" Team,well Jason the NewAge Hockey System or the NHS supports the Possesion/Transition game.The Kings began utilising these
concepts from the beginning 4 years ago even before I named them.
And Jason it all begins by changing your perspective and NOT even using traditional terminology,you must change your mindset to a superior and optimal
one.
The NHS does NOT surrender or waste Possesions/Transitions and the hard work and time put into them on inferior dynamics,there is no Boom required
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What the HELL are you talking about?
Are you trying to tell me that a good point shot is not needed on a PP? If so you are OUT TO LUNCH!
This was Struds reply...............in Oct 2014..............today upon reasonable analysis of San Joses statisticlly high end PP we find that
NewAgeSys was BANG ON THE MONEY.......and Struds was slightly off base.......I am telling you that you are substituting a point shot...for a slap
shot....o slap shot threat.
You are "selling" the big slapshot as if it were somehow a top end needed tactic from the point on the PP.
I disagree with you 100% in the way you are presenting it.
I hard slapshot has its place on the PP but that must be a System choice,not a "my favorite" choice,and when you are using a possesion/transition
System like the Oilers are using this shot does not fit.
What do you define as "good" point shot Jason,please share that wisdom woth us.
Because I dont think a hurried slap-shot is a "good one"....I dont think a slapshot that takes so long to get set and execute that the defense can
collapse the lanes on is "good one"....I dont think the accuracy of the slapshot is in terms of a PP shot selection is a "good one"....i dont think
any shot where our players get set and have static feet on the blueline is a "good one" considering how many shorthanded goals we give up.
You just wanna scare the defenders,so save it for 5 on5 and keep these inferior tactics away from the PP.
We dont have a lack of shooters from the point we have a lack of shots from the point and that is a clear tactical choice . Maybe there are other
reasons,I can think of quite a few.You tell me why they dont use it, Jason you like the tactic so break it down for us all,why do YOU think the Oilers
arent using the "Boom"?.Please dont say they dont have anyone who can shoot the puck hard enough that is silly...95 mph or 105 mph whats the
difference when the accuracy is like inferior for a PP situation.
"I have written before about the need for a good PP shot from the point. It does not have to be a bomb but that is a bonus. The shooter should be able
to get it off quickly and get it through. A hard shot is nice as it makes the rebounds more unpredictable than a softer wrist or snap shot."
No bomb needed ...nice...this meansno Slapper needed,no?...."bonus"..B.S it is....a Bomb is poor management.
Get it off quickly huh Struds...why? to "speed up" the playaction and catch the defense in transition? Get it through Struds?...you mean "hurry it up"
because there arent many ways you are getting time to get set for a slapper before the lanes are filled and once that happensyou need to TRANSITION
the puck..you know Jason MOVE IT AROUND TO FIND HOLES....once this begins where do you find time to get set for the slapper again?
Makes the rebounds more "unpredictable?"..why the hell would you want that?....you want them to BE predictable,you want to see "scrums" fighting for
rebounds like Ice-Hogs huh? Well that is an inferior method especially on the PP.That is also the mentality that leads to mismanagement of smaller
skilled players who arent playing to their strengths being Ice-Hogs.We all know this is what leads to pressure to "get bigger" which translates to
lose skill and replace it with an Ice-Hog.
Jason you dont respect"possesion" enough,and this is the type of game the Oilers are striving to play.You want to wast bullets trying to scare the
enemy.
There are better ways to "speed up" the PP playaction and to manage it than by simply firing as fast a shot on net as you can and as hard as you
can,and the perfect moments you speak of when you say "get it through" dont last very long after the initial zone entry whenn the defense is in place
and lanes ae closing.Once you begin to move the puck up high to force the defense into active transition to find holes you DONT have time for the
"hard slapper" you have time for the wrister or the snap-shot.
So just "drop the Bomb" why not,it isnt all its knocked up to be.
I am telling you a good shot IS needed on the point but that it needs to be the RIGHT shot which is managed to suit the style the team is playing,in
this case "possesion style"and on the PP the "hurry up" slapper is the least optimal choice,the "rebounds" you talk about are not a guaranteed 2nd
shot opportunity,not at all,all you are sure of once you let that shot go is that you have SURRENDERED POSSESION when you have the puck in their zone
with the man advantage in support of the lowest grade shot option available to you
The Oilers are a skilled possesion style team now, maybe you could add your NHL caliber analysis to help find ways,aside from the point shot that this
type of team SHOULD BE approaching on the PP to keep it in the NHL top ten over 82 games.
Lets say just maybe by engineering basic n-zone transitions and o-zone entrys,why all the stop-and-pop stuff? Why all the slow-poke out of synch stuff
we see which drops the PP teams pace and momentum nearly off the table Because it is SOP-Traditional? For lack of better tactics?
The "setting up"we see with the traditional PP structures that are supported by the point shots you are stuck on are inferior tactics for the Oilers
to be using.
The usual reason you are on the PP in the first place is that your team was pushing the river,this means you have momentum on your side in every way,I
watched many NHL teams scew up this dynamic for over 40 years,"slow it down" on the PP and try slow controlled zone transitions with an even slower
o-zone entry,the most regressive tactics imaginable.You SHOULD be penetrating the o-zone on the PP with possesion tactics and doing it at high speeds
with overwhelming numbers the same as you do 5 on 5,if you slow it down you screw up the momentum,team synergy and destroy the proper sense of urgency
you NEED on the PP.
Struds times change man,how long ago was it that you saw playes swimming around without lumber,after breaking their sticks,trying to stay in position
and in the playaction,BUT actully creating more of a disconnect more damage than good,well that tactic was outdated and regressive,now you see smarter
better managed teams with men sprinting for new sticks immediatly while their teammates seamlessly transition to cover for their short absence,things
change when BETTER MANAGEMENT practices come into play,EVEN STRUDS if the majority of NHL Players and Managers "dont get it" at first
Jordan McNugent-Hallkins replied in Oct/2014............NewAgeSys, dude, you have an NHLer telling you that you have no idea what you're talking
about. Call Scotty Bowman up, I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing.
Jordan McNugent Hallkins was being influenced by the Status Quo and he was rightfully overwhelmed by Struds being an NHLer..........this is Jordan
McNugent Hallkins reply today................##Oh god, does this mean NewAgeSys was right about not bothering too much with the big point shot?
I feel dirty.
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@Jordan McNugent-Hallkins
Actually Struds asked me What the hell I was talking about,he didnt say I did not know what I was talking about.He doesnt understand what I am telling
him.
He said if I thought a good point shot wasnt needed on aPP I was "out to lunch",this wasnt the case at all as I DO believe a good point shot is needed
on the PP.I undersood what he was saying and disagreed in part.Still do.
Players dont usually make good coaches,this same principal applies to Coaches being tactical analysts,most are not cut out for it,in fact most Players
AND Coaches are not cut out to be Analysts,they MUST have developed tunnel vision to become pros,this is an unavoidable reality,this principal is what
screws the stats-heads trying to use numbers to produce meaningfull dynamic analysis,it will never work out.
As a Fan of NHL hockey for over 40 years with thousands of games watched,I consider myself to be professional hockey Analyst.I definately do not think
Struds out-guns me in the Analysis Arena,not by a long shot NHLer or not.
Scotty Bowman is a Legend,a Hockey God,no one talks to him but angels.
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The greatest irony to me was that when these comments wee being posted Scotty Bowman was in full NewAge Hockey System mode....scrambeling to find as
much data as he could using all of his resources.Since feb2 /2012 when Sam Gagner and his teammates lit him and his Hawks up for 8 NewAge Hockey
System catalysed points Mr.Bowman has been sucking the lint off of Moma2s hockey bag like everyone else who doesnt pay respects or bills.......he has
been using the data and not respecting the source enough to even validate it...a Made-Man ...a hockey Icon who doesnt have enough class to throw a
dog bone?not even a Dog who had to scrap every step of his way from his living room into Scotty Bowmans NHL Office and Mind .....again I say that
Scotty you owe me and you know it and there is no professional standard which protects you from being engaged for your intentional oversights.....in
this case Scotty you erred and contributed in part as a stakeholder in the suppression of the NHS which severely influenced its creators potential
future opportunittys.......you helped scew Moma2 and keep the NHS out of the NHL formally and in your own back-pocket......Sutter in LA didnt see it
coming from Stolly........Scotty you HUNTED THE NHS DOWN and knew and know full well exactly where the data originated.Its LAs turn this year Scotty
and Moma2 has not decided how to remediate you yet....time factors into this one....you used it for 4 years so maybe burying your Team for 4
consecutive years might be fair barring some type of remediation happening first.You did luck out this year as you well know.....only because you were
so tuned directly into Moma2 did you survive to win the Cup....you pirated your opponents tactical data and simply reacted quicker but Scotty you were
still reacting to MOMA2s data right to the final scoring dynamics in the final game ....hello.....still Moma2s data..not your own......Scotty you know
the right thing to do...disclose.....give credit where it is due....your reputation and legacy story will include how you did things Scotty not only
that you did them.....your personal methods are in question here.......you screwed a little guy Scotty....you knew it to.....just because others also
did this doesnt make it OK...they are finding themselves remediated if you are paying attention and Scotty I am not posting this for nothing....this
is your opportunitty to clean your slate....history will remember these decisions Scotty and you KNOW Moma2s NewAge Hockey System is not going
anywhere anytime soon.......your call....Moma2 is not offering amnesty again and HAS NOT ENGAGED YOU TO DATE ON THIS ISSUE.
FYI Scotty the late and respected Pat Quinn openly endorsed Moma2s NewAge Hockey System and implemented it verbatim with his NHL Players.......you
arent alone Scotty...Quinn-Sutter-Bowman......how can anyone dare try to disenfranchise Moma2 when these types of impacts have been catalysed by Moma2
with these Hockey Legends?????
At the end of the day Scotty you barely wiggeled in this year and you know you need to evolve your Process now....you NEED to....but where do you go
to do this Scotty when Moma2 is the source of your current data?????You are always going to end up facing Moma2 when you need to go back to the
well.Just like everyone else does Scotty......Moma2 is an Intuitive Empath with a lifelong connection to high level sporting dynamics...competative
sports dynamics....hands on experience playing AND Coaching.
There IS only one.........full stop.
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