Obama vs Romney: If you think one is better than the other...you're silly

The title pretty much says it all. That's all I got at the moment.

We all can pretty much agree that TPTB are in control of the entire show out there (minus the Ron Paul scene.) TPTB put Obama in charge back in 2008 are now putting Romney up to bat in 2012. They have to give us a good show. They have to have the duality. It's what Americans thrive on. We love to say "I'm right, you're wrong."

They are laughing at us. We can't even get our act together long enough to unify against them.

So many people saying, "Well, dang, at this point I think Obama is better than that Romney jerk."
Or, "Man! After 4 years of Obama, I'll take anything!"

That is silly. Silly silly silly. And that is the most polite way I can say that.

If you are not for Ron Paul then IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR. Do you not see this? Romney and Obama will both continue The Patriot Act, will both continue the TSA, will both continue to protect the FED and the international banking cartel, will both back the NDAA, will both go to war with Iran and most likely other parts of Africa, and will continue to not care about you or this country one gosh durned bit.

You are either in denial or plain uninformed if you think elsewise. I know that may sound close minded or whatever, but at this point its my honest opinion. It's like this: When I was in Kindergarten the teacher told my mom that I didn't get along well with some of the other students sometimes in group projects. So my mom came in to view the class. I was then paired up with a girl and we were told to put a stack of index cards with words on them in to alphabetical order. I put them in correct order. The girl disagreed with me and changed them. I changed them back. She changed them again. I told her she was wrong and she got upset. The teacher then turned to my mom and said, " See? He just can't get along with group projects."
I know, it's late and that's a semi-random tangent, but the point is, SHE WAS WRONG, and I'm tired of not telling people they are wrong simply because their feelings might get hurt.

These are serious issues. Life and death issues. It's not enough anymore to see the corruption and see the evil and the lies and the way things are going and then to just 'give in' and say, 'Well, it's all the rich evil Republicans fault.' Or, 'Those damn yella-bellied Democrats." BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS: THE ESTABLISHMENT IS A THEATER SHOW.

It's like wrestling. Vince McMahon makes money off of people loving THIS GUY and hating THAT GUY. They purposefully make 'bad guys' and put in the pretty 'heroes.' It's all scripted though. It's already written who is going to take the fall.

And yet there are people out there who will honestly sit back and tell me they think that Romney is better than Obama or vice versa?

It's. Just. Plain. Silly.

haveagreatnight

seriously. The bipartisan bickering on this website is ridiculous. People here are playing right into TPTB hands by arguing in support of one candidate vs. the other. That's what they want you to do. They don't want people to unite and support neither of them.
The president is just used as a scapegoat. Calling Obama a socialist is exactly what they want you to do. What Obama and the real PTB are doing is called fascism, not socialism. They want to keep all of the wealth for themselves; the complete opposite of socialism.
Meanwhile the real rulers run the show from behind the scenes laughing their asses off.

I disagree with one thing you said OP. If the conspiracy is as big as I think it is, Ron Paul is in on it too.
He serves a very good role by keeping conspiracy folks distracted and giving them false hope. I really want him to be the real deal, but I think this conspiracy is a little too deep for that.

Good thread OP!

reply to post by Ghost375


I definitely understand what you're saying. And in all honesty, at this point, nothing would surprise me. Man, if you could prove to me Ron Paul was an alien from Planet Nibiru who was sent here to gather a cult following and take over the world...I'd believe you in a heart beat.

But so far, from my perspective, aside from all out paranoia, there isn't any evidence to show that he is a part of TPTB. And further more, this clip here proves (to me) that this can't be just a really drawn our government ploy. I mean...they would have had to be stockpiling footage of Ron Paul and getting him to say these things for over 30 years all just for this one election to distract the liberty minded citizens. Again, not saying it's impossible, but I don't think thats the case. His reaction in this clip is just too honest and too real to not be his own opinion.

Cheers!

reply to post by eleven44


I wish I could give you a hundred stars for that. Very well said and I agree with you completely. I had the same sort of experiences as a child too- more interested in solving the problem at hand than being nice I guess.

I never went for the voting for the lesser evil argument. I voted for Paul last time and before that too. I voted for Harry Browne. I vote my conscience. If more people would do that this country wouldn't be in the shape it's in now.

reply to post by eleven44
Um. . . . . okay.

First off, I get a kick out of the Paul threads.

Second, if there is a "TPTB" you don't think they control Paul as well? What is he, kryptonite?

I don't think there is a "TPTB" that controls the elections.

People vote for the person for which they will benefit the most from.

Last time, it was Obama.

This time? Who knows. Glad you're voting though.

Finally, I'm very silly, at least most of the time.

beez

Romney is a turn in the right direction. He is not a cure, but more of a stop loss. To suggest that they are one in the same only suggests that you are an ex-obama supporter. We need to stop the tsars and the endless stream of executive orders that circumvent the Congress. While Romney is not the perfect choice, he is the best plausible choice, and his presidency will give us something to build on. We need to stop the bleeding first and regain our witts, then we can focus on pushing the center back towards the right.

From my perspective Paul supporters are no better than those who put Obama and Romney on pedstals and think they are going to make everything ok.

Idolatry in American politics is the larger problem.

Bush!

no Bush ruined the country...

Obama!!

Anybody but Obama!!


Romney?


Why didn't we choose Ron Paul?

Obviously not identical twins, but very close --



I'm pretty sure we don't win either way.

reply to post by neo96


Ronnie supporters are worse. They are completely rabid and delusional. Most are just being trendy. Ron would destroy this country and wipeout every safety net.

reply to post by Domo1


Sorry pretty much all tied Obama,Romney and Paul read a great comment in another thread:

That said if anyone of them came to a sudden stop all of them would fly up their censored

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by neo96

 

Ronnie supporters are worse. They are completely rabid and delusional. Most are just being trendy. Ron would destroy this country and wipeout every safety net.

Good point.

In 2008, it was trendy to vote for Obama.
"Look at me! I'm voting for a black guy!"

Never mind his policies and ideologies.

We shouldn't vote for the coolest, most charasmatic, hippest presidential candidiate.

Would anyone go to a dentist if he were cool but stank at his job?

reply to post by beezzer


I am frightened of any candidate that has the majority of support on college campuses and conspiracy websites. Theyre all pretty frightening though.

Originally posted by Domo1
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I am frightened of any candidate that has the majority of support on college campuses and conspiracy websites. Theyre all pretty frightening though.

Back when I was in college, I worked for the Pat Buchanan exploratory campaign in 1988.

Can I ask Domo, Beezer and Neo -

What is your solution..... ?? Legit want to know.

Originally posted by Maluhia
Can I ask Domo, Beezer and Neo -

What is your solution..... ?? Legit want to know.

Get involved. Acually involved. Ask questions. Make phone calls. Speak your mind. Use your voice. On an article I wrote a few years ago, a congressman actually called me and we argued for 45 minutes.

Find a candidate you like and work with that person.

Run for local office yourself.

Don't let the media, ATS, do your homework for you. Makae up your own mind. Find whats important for you and yur family and start there.

Legit answer, at least from me.

What Bezzer said and do not let yourself be manipulated.

Know what you want and how you want to get there.

reply to post by Domo1


I would be willing to bet that you are one of the same ones who bitch and complain about people not voting too. Let me ask you something. Why would anyone with half a brain vote for the shills that the mainstream puts forth?

reply to post by beezzer

wow thanks for the lesson in civics 101 - you are all bashing romney, obama and paul -what other choice is there? Who will save us? I know - I will write in Beezer!

Until we learn to take responsibility for ourselves we are f**^@d....doesn't matter who you vote for or call.

reply to post by beezzer


I think doing your own research is crucial. The Ron Paul frenzy on ATS has in my opinion blinded and badgered many members into joining his camp. Agree that getting involved locally is a good step. One thing Im looking into more is public campaign financing. Going to talk with someone tomorrow about what they are doing in my state.

I actually support many of Pauls ideas, but I dont think he is 100% reasonable and that some action he wants to take is downright dangerous. I dont think Mittens or Obama are great candidates either. I dont know who I think the lesser of those three evils actually is.

If I actually had some brilliant idea I would be sharing it. For now do what you can in your community, and try to support solid local candidates that will be able to fight to the top. Ron Paul is the new Obama, people seem to think the man in office has untold powers that in reality he does not. The foundation is weak ,we need to worry about that.