Nosy exam question asks 3rd graders to reveal a "secret". Parents outraged.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


To teach kids to critically think? Are you kidding? It is teaching kids to rat out their parents and friends.

As the Nazis needed to control each aspect of a child's life to have full hold on the child they realised that it was a necessity to control a child's home or family life, in many cases this meant isolating a child from his/her family. It became increasingly common in Germany for the children of the household to be much more pro-Nazi than their parents. This is because the children grew up being controlled by Nazi forces and therefore found such things as routine household checks normal, whereas older family members found it an invasion of privacy. This often resulted in family disputes and caused unsettledness. This was also caused by the fact that the Nazi party always expected to be put before everything, even before your family.

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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

To teach kids to critically think? Are you kidding? It is teaching kids to rat out their parents and friends. Don't you know this is a specific tactic used by the Nazis in WWII?

yes I do. Do you think that this compares to that in any way? Do we live in a time where a holocaust is taking place? What intel exactly do you think they are gathering here? And what of it do you think would be admissible in court (hint, its NONE)

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

To teach kids to critically think? Are you kidding? It is teaching kids to rat out their parents and friends. Don't you know this is a specific tactic used by the Nazis in WWII?

yes I do. Do you think that this compares to that in any way? Do we live in a time where a holocaust is taking place? What intel exactly do you think they are gathering here? And what of it do you think would be admissible in court (hint, its NONE)

Yes I do totally. See my other posts. But for the record it's not just Nazification. It's Totalitarianism in general. That includes socialism and communism, globalism, the UN Agenda 21.

Do you think that holocaust has to manifest specifically by attacking the Jewish? Do you know about the de-population plans of UN Agenda 21 and the Rockefellers? Do you think it is much different from the original eugenics of Margaret Sanger?

Think about how the Prez believed his own granny should not be getting a hip replacement because she was old. Think about that for a bit and tell me you really believe he wants all people to have equal care under the State. Rationing is part of the health care agenda whether you want to accept that or not. You need to get your head out of that ridiculous Utopian sand pit.

Admissible in court? The State can come in and take your children on a whim and you are a ok with that apparently. Oh wait, you think the State loves the children more than the parents do and are always justified in their actions?
Maybe you remember Operation Tips

Operation TIPS, where the last part is an acronym for the Terrorism Information and Prevention System, was a domestic intelligence-gathering program designed by President George W. Bush to have United States citizens report suspicious activity. The program's website implied that US workers who had access to private citizens' homes, such as cable installers and telephone repair workers, would be reporting on what was in people's homes if it were deemed "suspicious."

It came under intense scrutiny in July 2002 when the Washington Post alleged in an editorial that the program was vaguely defined, and investigative political journalist Ritt Goldstein observed in Australia's Sydney Morning Herald [1] that TIPS would provide America with a higher percentage of 'citizen spies' than the former East Germany had under the notorious Stasi secret police. Goldstein later observed that he broke news of Operation TIPS on March 10 in Spain's second largest daily, El Mundo,[2] but that he struggled until July before finding a major English language paper which would print the story.

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reply to post by PurpleChiten


I don't know. In a way, for the good parents who don't participate in illegal activities, it shouldn't be a big deal, but I can see how it may be interpreted as a really, REALLY big invasion of privacy


What if the child has an enormous imagination and uses that to make a "fractured fairytale" up because they can't think of any real secrets? What if they used some of our "wonderful" television for this purpose? I believe there could be quite a few children who might do this....but even one is too many if it's untrue and detrimental to the parents. These days you can't look at your child cockeyed without some consequences!

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Well, its clear we arent going to agree on this, as you consider what is happening in america today as similar to the nazis, and I dont. You believe that there is a global depopulation agenda. I dont. You think there is a holocaust going on right now, of the human race. I dont.

Agree to disagree?

This kind of question is perhaps a reflection of more Corporate Data-mining influencing the schools.

Who wants to bet these "secrets" get stored and sold off to a private company?

Or maybe it's just a dumb accident -- I prefer to be cynical and want stupid intrusive institutions to prove themselves innocent BEFORE I give them the benefit of the doubt.

They're training everyone to be snitches...

If I have kids, I'm hiding them in a basement. They aren't going to school.

reply to post by FortAnthem


It might be a good idea to teach the kids not to be so open with their answers on things like that, you can't trust too many people these days.

I didn't personally live through this era but it sounds like athe beginning of a really, really milder form of what Hitler did and what he wanted to do with the Brown shirts (youth group) This is vey bad indeed.

Do we know of any of these reports such as talking against the government, yadayada go from there to some type of ivestigating agency on parental influence, perhaps? It's getting so you have to watch what you say and do. What happened to us?

Originally posted by Kabayu
...There are laws for people to mess with underage kids, but did you know there is no law a 5 yo getting a 6 yo girl pregnant is not a law, in fact the sex industry thrive to educate these kids much more... My neighbor 6 year old told me other day he though it was funny seeing woman playing a mans skin flute...W.T.F.

There's no law about 5 and 6 year olds getting the other pregnant because you can't get pregnant until you enter puberty. Although puberty seems to be starting earlier and earlier, it would be very, very rare for it to happen in a 6 year old. That happens around 11 or 12 on average.

that is absolutely rediculous,my son is 4 and about to start preschool,im horrified to think wut kinda of negative impact are educational system will hav on my child and to be honest id rather him turn out a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy therist like myself then a brainwashed goverment conformist.i am literally scared for him and the travistys that are future holds..........

So, can someone in this thread answer me this: If this is about intel-gathering, what intel are they hoping to get from 3rd graders?

reply to post by captaintyinknots


it could be anything from abuse to drug use,privet family issues..jus remember kids say the darndest things lol..

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Well, its clear we arent going to agree on this, as you consider what is happening in america today as similar to the nazis, and I dont. You believe that there is a global depopulation agenda. I dont. You think there is a holocaust going on right now, of the human race. I dont.

Agree to disagree?

Yes fine, agree to disagree.

reply to post by bitsforbytes


This is clearly an effort of the NWO to test their young, once again, and see who is telling secrets or not. Or, it is a pedo teacher getting ready to groom some kids who know how to keep their mouths shut. Or, it was some clandestine 'Sex in the City' type lady teacher who needs a bit more drama but can no longer relate to people her own age.

Why are people getting upset over this ?

Is it not secrets that have driven this world into the dark, and controlled era it has become ? As well, these childs have free will, and when it comes to participating in school, parents need to let their children know its OKAY TO SAY NO to teachers.

But I do not think it is a bad thing asking them to "reveal" their secret.. human kind need to learn to be more open and honest with eachother, holding things in and bottled up (secret) is very unhealthy, and potentially can lead to a fued.

We are all of the same world, same race, same planet, seeking the same answers... why keep things from eachother ? Teach your children too be open and honest rather orderd and closed off. Sure some of you Atser members willl not agree, but that is because those who dont, are probably closed off inside as well. Its unhealthy.
Being open and sharing "secrets" makse everyone feeel better, it can teach acceptance, sharing, kindness, stronger bonds with friends/family .. So I dont think this is a big deal, the children still have the right to say no and not write it down.

~ Love is an art

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus



Holy crap TEoH I was just on about Margaret Sanger ten minutes ago and it was a convoluted story that had nothing to do with Eugenics. Was doing some serious digging into the use of Levamisole as a cutting agent in coc aine and somehow this lead to her. Ha. Like your stuff - we should talk.

Just a sneeky way to get the kids to inform on the perents.
what next? get them to take home spy camaras?

Originally posted by thirdeye3spiral
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

it could be anything from abuse to drug use,privet family issues..jus remember kids say the darndest things lol..

And what about any of these would make it worth it to put the money into data-mining 3rd graders? Not to mention, how would they use it? Children of that age are rarely considered a reliable source.

Originally posted by arielburns
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Holy crap TEoH I was just on about Margaret Sanger ten minutes ago and it was a convoluted story that had nothing to do with Eugenics. Was doing some serious digging into the use of Levamisole as a cutting agent in coc aine and somehow this lead to her. Ha. Like your stuff - we should talk.

I've never even heard of that Lavamisole stuff you mention. What are the effects of it? Is it bad like melamine in milk products?
Sanger was financed by none other than Rockefeller and it was the original start of Planned Parenthood, which today is responsible for many abortions.

Originally posted by elrem48
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

I don't know. In a way, for the good parents who don't participate in illegal activities, it shouldn't be a big deal, but I can see how it may be interpreted as a really, REALLY big invasion of privacy


What if the child has an enormous imagination and uses that to make a "fractured fairytale" up because they can't think of any real secrets? What if they used some of our "wonderful" television for this purpose? I believe there could be quite a few children who might do this....but even one is too many if it's untrue and detrimental to the parents. These days you can't look at your child cockeyed without some consequences!

It wouldn't take them long to figure out if it was true or not and nothing would come of it. A little bit of inconvenience and also finding out your child has a great imagination and is a gifted writer should be a good tradeoff for keeping the kid that sits next to them from being raped again that evening or beaten with a belt buckle or ending up dying after their parent decides to share their needle with them or some other horrible thing like that.
I still don't think that's what the intent of the question was, it was just a really poorly worded question that they didn't look at from that angle. As long as the population stays involved in what goes on around them, the government can't "take over" and force things upon us.