Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by rival
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by FortAnthem
What do these parents have to hide and why make a young child responsible for the information if they do? Either your child can keep a secret or they
can't. Many popular children's stories and poems revolve around secrets. I think the parents are afraid the kid is going to spill stuff like my
parents are running a meth lab, hoarding guns, making me have sex with strangers - you know that sort of stuff.
It is a ridiculous argument that ONLY criminals covet their privacy. We all covet our privacy,
otherwise the there would be no sound business in window curtain sales.
This argument is nothing but the self-righteous, egotistical assertion of someone who
believes they are squeaky clean and that all others should be as well....and it misses
Privacy goes WAY BEYOND the hiding of criminal activity. What if the child's secret were
that he was born a boy, but for medical reasons, he was changed at birth to a girl? (I have
niece starting school in this predicament, FYI).
Or that daddy and mommy have an open relationship and that mommy is dating the
principal and daddy is dating the principal's ex-wife.
Arghhh, the idea that criminals are the only ones who require privacy is a RIDICULOUS
ego-driven self-serving fallacy. And it is people who think like this who wake up and find
ALL of their freedom GONE...and sometimes their very lives at stake
Yeah I guess it would be a ridiculous argument if that was what I was saying but I wasn't.
How do you protect children from parents who are abusive if you do not even have the right to ask them to tell you the truth? Before you blame me for
an irrational argument why don't you stop and take the time to think of answers that will solve the dilemma of protecting children while maintaining
individual liberty and privacy.
Now all of a sudden everyone is a liberal.
Two timing back stabbers these weekend liberals.
Sorry for the vitriol, it WAS misguided. My post was directed to an esoteric group in here whose stance
was to attack the parents as potential criminals for wanting to keep their children's secrets private.
It was this sentence that lumped your reply into that group, and I knee-jerked.
I think the parents are afraid the kid is going to spill stuff like my parents are running a meth lab, hoarding guns, making me have sex with
strangers - you know that sort of stuff.
I still feel quite passionately about the subject of privacy because we have lost that particular freedom
in the last ten years.
It is no longer a conspiracy theory that every word I type while connected to the internet or
every word I speak into a phone is *monitored*. It is, in fact, an accepted protocol in this new age
of suspected terrorism...and it goes against EVERY principle this country was founded on and
flies in the face of the fourth amendment.
The reason for my passion is the emerging paradigm that ALL persons are *guilty until
proven innocent.* WE MUST STOP THIS IDEA FROM TAKING HOLD or the future of the
children that we are seeking to protect...will be lost.
I can offer no solutions to the problem of children's abuse. It is a problem that the human species
has been dealing with forever. And it will continue, because sexual deviants and sadists are born
into existence every day. Maybe just look for the signs of abuse and ask questions when you have some
shred of evidence that a child is being harmed. Remain vigilant and aware, as is REQUIRED
by the tenets of a free society...once again freedom REQUIRES work. It certainly is NOT free.
I can relate one tale where this system worked.
I was a precocious kid, and in grade school loved magic and other things of that ilk. One day I decided
to make-up my face. I was, and still am, pretty good at taking a pencil, a blue pen, a red pen, and
creating realistic bruises and blood welts on my face. After doing this (for fun) before school,
I attended class and was immediately queried and shuffled off to the principal's office when I didn't
produce the truth of the matter. Unbeknownst to me, the administrators thought I was covering up
a case of abuse.
Anyway, next thing I know my dad shows up, in uniform (he was a police officer) HIGHLY UPSET,
and I realize my error a tad too late--as my joke has been too effective. So I remove the make-up and
and everyone is relieved, and my dad takes me home and I get a lecture about a boy who cried
wolf, (although at the time I was innocent of child abuse and didn't quite understand how serious
my joke had been.)
But that is the type of system I want to return to once again. It's not perfect....
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