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(This just won't link for some reason. Source is Internet Archive: WaybackMachine, October 30, 2002 for romney2002 . com)
On Gay Rights All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. While he does not support gay marriage, Mitt Romney believes domestic partnership status should be recognized in a way that includes the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship.
Civil union law sought
Romney says move would satisfy the SJC
Under pressure to respond to the Supreme Judicial Court's decision on gay marriage, Governor Mitt Romney and a top House lawmaker said yesterday that they believe the justices would be satisfied if lawmakers craft a civil union statute that grants many of the benefits of marriage but does not legally sanction same-sex marriage. Romney and state Representative Eugene L. O'Flaherty, the House chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary, said separately that they do not support legislation to allow gays to marry and believe the justices signaled that a parallel system of civil unions for gays would meet state constitutional muster.
Romney Wants Gay-Marriage Ban on Mass. Ballot
BOSTON, Nov. 19 -- Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) said Sunday that he will ask the state's highest court this week to order a ballot question on same-sex marriage if legislators fail to vote on the matter when they reconvene in January. Romney said he will ask a justice of the state's Supreme Judicial Court to direct the secretary of state to place the question on the ballot if lawmakers do not vote directly on the question Jan. 2, the final day of the current session. Romney's term as governor expires Jan. 4.
Unlike Obama, Romney says he hasn't changed at all. "I have the same view that I've had since running for office," he said.
But that could depend on which office he means. Back when Romney was running for the U.S. Senate in 1994, he promised to be a champion for "full equality" for gays and lesbians — which many understood to include even gay marriage.
"His campaign distributed at the gay pride parade pink flyers that asserted that he would be a better and a stronger advocate than Ted Kennedy," recalls lobbyist Arlene Isaacson.
OBAMA: Well, to answer the original question, I would love that child and seek to support them. I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman but I detest the bashing and vilifying of gays and lesbians. Most gays and lesbians are seeking basic recognition of their rights so they’re not discriminated against in employment or renting a house, so they can see their partner in a hospital. These are rights for everybody, not just some people.
OBAMA: What I believe, in my faith, is that, a man and a woman, when they get married, are performing something before God. And it’s not simply the two persons who are meeting. But that doesn’t mean that that necessarily translates into a position on public policy, or with respect to civil unions.
Obama articulates a very traditional view of marriage that aligned with the position of then President Bush, but no one blasted Obama as a hater for it. Put Obama’s exact words in the mouth of any Republican and the loving, tolerant left will aim to wipe that person off the political map.
(Reuters) - Two big cases addressing marriage rights for gays and lesbians are on track to reach the U.S. Supreme Court as soon as this year, keeping the focus on an issue President Barack Obama reignited with his endorsement this week.
Obama got both sides of the marriage debate fired up on Wednesday when he said he believes gays and lesbians should be able to marry. The comments to ABC News completed the president's self-described evolution on the subject and thrust the issue into his 2012 re-election campaign.
Los Angeles – President Barack Obama wasted little time casting his historic embrace of same-sex marriage as a political wedge issue Thursday, telling a Hollywood fundraising crowd that it shows how his vision of the country differs from Republicans.
Speaking at a dinner at the home of George Clooney, Obama raised the issue gay marriage obliquely, saying simply to enthusiastic applause: "Obviously, yesterday we made some news."
"It was a logical extension of what America is supposed to be," he said. "It grew directly out of this difference in visions: Are we a country that includes everybody and give everybody a shot and treats everybody fairly?"
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
More laws and more legislation to ban or outlaw something one group of people are intolerant of.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Of course, maybe starting threads just isn't my strong point. Oh well. Whatever the case, to thy own thread be true, apparently.
Yup.. Definitely night night for the bunny... (hops off)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I said in my OP...
The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Pub.L. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C) is a United States federal law that defines marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman. The law passed both houses of Congress by large majorities and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.
Under the law, no state or other political subdivision of the U.S. may be required to recognize as a marriage a same-sex relationship considered a marriage in another state. Section 3 of DOMA codifies the non-recognition of same-sex marriage for all federal purposes, including insurance benefits for government employees, Social Security survivors' benefits, and the filing of joint tax returns. This section has been found unconstitutional in two Massachusetts court cases and a California bankruptcy court case, all of which are under appeal. The Obama administration announced in 2011 that it had determined that Section 3 was unconstitutional and, though it would continue to enforce the law, it would no longer defend it in court. In response, the House of Representatives undertook the defense of the law on behalf of the federal government in place of the Department of Justice (DOJ).
Originally posted by snusfanatic
I've probably changed my view on gay marriage 2-3 times in the last 8 years. Don't see why Obama or Romney couldn't change theirs also, especially in 16 years.