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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
So, just to be clear, are there really those in this thread that are disputing that it is a FACT that Rp is behind in this poll?
yikes....
I wouldn't go so far as dispute that RP is behind in THAT poll. However, I do very much dispute the validity of the poll itself and the conclusion you are drawing from it.
and what conclusion is that?
Originally posted by ahmonrarh
Originally posted by satron
I'm voting for Ron Paul whether he wins or not, so it doesn't really matter.
Same here.
It's fairly simple to me...If someone doesn't think highly of my opinion or candidate. Ignore it. I look at it that way for all things.
If paul loses, he loses. but that won't stop me from throwing my vote his way, hearing "why waste the vote?!...he's gonna lose...." those are the people that fall behind in a game by 6pts and go to the locker room.....
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
So, just to be clear, are there really those in this thread that are disputing that it is a FACT that Rp is behind in this poll?
yikes....
I wouldn't go so far as dispute that RP is behind in THAT poll. However, I do very much dispute the validity of the poll itself and the conclusion you are drawing from it.
and what conclusion is that?
Namely that Ron Paul is "losing" in any demonstrable manner whether it be in Texas or nationwide. It is a brokered convention and although tallies are still changing daily, the current delegate count seems to be pretty close to a dead heat.
How is that you put so much faith in a single poll from quite some time ago when there were twice as many canditates still running, when there the current data are suggesting that it's a VERY close GOP primary with the Paul campaign seeming to even GAIN momentum in this final leg?
It simply defies explanation.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Ahhh yes, the old "proven on ATS defense". if thats the case, why isnt anyone pursuing legal action?
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Correct.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Ahhh yes, the old "proven on ATS defense". if thats the case, why isnt anyone pursuing legal action?
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Ahhh yes, the old "proven on ATS defense". if thats the case, why isnt anyone pursuing legal action?
Why pursue legal action? By the time it actually gets to court the election will be long over. That's the epitome of silly ignorance.
And voter fraud hasn't just been proved "on ATS". Very credible evidence including first hand testimony, video recordings, and primary documents from various local RNC offices have come out to show that election fraud has been rampant.
May I ask, have you been in the United States for the last 12 months or so, or have you been living/traveling overseas somewhere?? The evidence which has surfaced has been pretty hard not to notice at all.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
May I ask, have you been in the United States for the last 12 months or so, or have you been living/traveling overseas somewhere?? The evidence which has surfaced has been pretty hard not to notice at all.
Originally posted by earthdude
reply to post by Southern Guardian
I'm from Texas and would vote for him. I didn't even know he was a Texan. If he learned the drawl, wore a Stetson hat, and said stupid redneck things he would be more popular here. We only vote for complete idiots here in Texas, look at our record.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
the current delegate count seems to be pretty close to a dead heat.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Voter fraud has been proven on countless ATS threads over and over again.
Correct.
And yet none of you is taking the legal steps available to you to stop it?
Either you all are lying, or youre letting down the man you support so much.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
May I ask, have you been in the United States for the last 12 months or so, or have you been living/traveling overseas somewhere?? The evidence which has surfaced has been pretty hard not to notice at all.
Lived here all my life, not that that has anything to do with the subject. Ive seen the "evidence". Im not impressed.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
May I ask, have you been in the United States for the last 12 months or so, or have you been living/traveling overseas somewhere?? The evidence which has surfaced has been pretty hard not to notice at all.
Lived here all my life, not that that has anything to do with the subject. Ive seen the "evidence". Im not impressed.
Hmmmm. Interesting use of quotation marks. Generally speaking, official documents, video recordings, and eyewitness testimony is considered plain old evidence (sans quotes) in every other legal matter in the United States.
In fact, these forms of evidence are typically regarded so highly that they are routinely cited as being credible enough to even sentence people to death.
Tell me, why is that you feel such items are not deserving of the same standard in this instance?
Dont expect a whole lot of responses on this....there is a definite pattern for RP followers to simply ignore anything that challenges them on the subject.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by milominderbinder
the current delegate count seems to be pretty close to a dead heat.
Where's your source for this?? What delegate count are you looking at? And wasn't it Paul supporters who insisted there are no hard or bound delegates? So how can you conclude Paul's delegate count in this case?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
So, just to be clear, are there really those in this thread that are disputing that it is a FACT that Rp is behind in this poll?
yikes....
I wouldn't go so far as dispute that RP is behind in THAT poll. However, I do very much dispute the validity of the poll itself and the conclusion you are drawing from it.
and what conclusion is that?
Namely that Ron Paul is "losing" in any demonstrable manner whether it be in Texas or nationwide. It is a brokered convention and although tallies are still changing daily, the current delegate count seems to be pretty close to a dead heat.
How is that you put so much faith in a single poll from quite some time ago when there were twice as many canditates still running, when there the current data are suggesting that it's a VERY close GOP primary with the Paul campaign seeming to even GAIN momentum in this final leg?
It simply defies explanation.
1)I never claimed RP is losing. This is an assumption on your part.
2)What leads you to believe I put "so much faith" in this poll? I have stated nothing of the sort. Again, assumption on your part.