What everyone seems to be forgetting about is that the race isn't about poll results and non-binding caucus and state primary results, it is about the delegate count. As has been referenced previously there is an almost fictional creature called an enthusiastic Romney supporter. I'll be able to tell you after June 7-9 how much support Ron Paul has in Texas.
I'll be going as a county delegate to the state convention. Of the 100 delegates and alternates from my county I know for a fact 50+ of them are Ron Paul supporters. There are a few staunch Gingrich and Santorum supporters in the group and the rest were Old Guard GOP that just support whoever they are told to.
If the rest of Texas runs about the same as my county, then Ron Paul is gonna sweep the delegates and as per Rule 38 of the National Party Rules none of the delegates are bound and are free to vote their conscience. So you can pretty much ignore the straw votes and just follow the state and congressional district conventions that actually elect the delegates.

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by The Old American
The Constitution doesn't confer or withhold rights from anyone. It only protects rights we have as human beings from infringement by the government.

/TOA

Maybe you. You must be a white male. How nice for you. It does jack squat to protect my rights on the same level and I am pretty sure I am just as human as you.

Poor little victim. Whoa is me. I'm a minority so my rights have automatically been abridged. Tell that to a white guy that can't get a spot at a university because he's white. Stop being a victim and be a leader.

/TOA

Originally posted by eLPresidente
This concern has not been addressed by the OP or any other member that has jumped on the anti-Paul bandwagon in this thread, and I suspect it won't be.

Look, why don't you find us another poll from an impartial enough source showing us where Paul leads Romney in Texas, please.

You also seem to want to brush away the other facts about Paul's last two presidential runs. He didn't win even his own districts in either of them. I mean seriously?

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by eLPresidente
This concern has not been addressed by the OP or any other member that has jumped on the anti-Paul bandwagon in this thread, and I suspect it won't be.

Look, why don't you find us another poll from an impartial enough source showing us where Paul leads Romney in Texas, please.

You also seem to want to brush away the other facts about Paul's last two presidential runs. He didn't win even his own districts in either of them. I mean seriously?

It's a valid question, SG. He was behind when there were 4 candidates. Two candidates have dropped out. What is the tally now? If you don't have that information, fine. But you've presented facts that are 2 months old as relevant to today's polls.

/TOA

Originally posted by The Old American
Poor little victim. Whoa is me. I'm a minority so my rights have automatically been abridged.

Can you read?
Where in any of my posts did I say anything like that? Do you understand what I am saying at all? This response says no.

Tell that to a white guy that can't get a spot at a university because he's white. Stop being a victim and be a leader.

/TOA

Oh noes! A white guy that cannot get into university. Awwwwe. lol. Cry me a river. Then tell me what that has to do with this. I thought we were discussing the constitution?

the lefties fear Ron Paul because he has the power to completely dominate the independent vote, where-as Romney has no chance in hell of winning it, at best splitting. It's just amazing to me how lately alot of Anti-Paul garbo has been posted here lately, wouldn't shock me if some of these people are working for some of these clowns

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Of course you would never say Ron Paul's support comes from the pro-Constitutional voting blocks.

You don't seem to have thought through what the real implications of his extreme Constitutionalism would be.

And I'll tell you right now, the Constitution would be followed.

I have thought it through many times since I am one of the minority groups that very constitution refused rights from. I am not really all that interested in going back to a time when I cannot vote or own land.

Ummmm...The Constitution is what GIVES you the right to vote and own land. Without the Constitution it would STILL be only white males who had the vote.

Originally posted by CoolStoryMan
the lefties fear Ron Paul because he has the power to completely dominate the independent vote, where-as Romney has no chance in hell of winning it, at best splitting. It's just amazing to me how lately alot of Anti-Paul garbo has been posted here lately, wouldn't shock me if some of these people are working for some of these clowns

Of COURSE there are paid shills here.

However...let's not blame "the lefty's". Historically speaking, I would be considered a "lefty" because I am remarkably anti-war, anti-police, and staunchly opposed to The War on Drugs, find the act of lobbying to be nothing other than institutionally-endorsed bribery, believe that there is NEVER an excuse for giving up civil liberties, and think we should lock up lots and lots of CEO's and banksters who have abused the system and then promptly throw away the key. Likewise, I have also long-believed that SOMETHING must be done about the student loan racket.

During the Bush Administration I was frequently accused of being an "Unpatriotic Communist" for holding these views.

Did I vote for Obama? Sure...but the reason I voted for him is largely because I was appalled at the Bush Admin's illegal wars, subversion of the Constitution, and crony-capitalism disguised as being "free market" economics. Although admittedly, the nail the in the coffin was Sarah Palin. Not so much because she might be the DUMBEST voice in politics in the last 1,000 yrs or so...but because it indicated to me that McCain made his choice more upon hoping she would steal votes from Hillary than upon any qualifications to hold the second-highest office in the land and I simply do not take kindly to our countries leaders playing silly popularity contests when it's at the expense of my children's future.

Really the anti-Paul crowd are pretty much simply the brainwashed who have been following instructions from the Dems and GOP for so long, they cannot bring themselves to think critically about the situation. There is a HELL OF A LOT MORE for a "lefty" and "righty" BOTH to love in Ron Paul than any of the schmucks we have had in office since Kennedy.

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by The Old American
Poor little victim. Whoa is me. I'm a minority so my rights have automatically been abridged.

Can you read?
Where in any of my posts did I say anything like that? Do you understand what I am saying at all? This response says no.

Tell that to a white guy that can't get a spot at a university because he's white. Stop being a victim and be a leader.

/TOA

Oh noes! A white guy that cannot get into university. Awwwwe. lol. Cry me a river. Then tell me what that has to do with this. I thought we were discussing the constitution?

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Autumnal: I totally agree with you. The "reverse racism" crowd is absolutely fu%$#ing clueless. In the words of Chris Rock "...white people are always complaining about how their losing the country. Ohhh...we're losing the country to the Mexicans. We're losing to the blacks. We're losing to the Asians. We're losing, we're losing, we're losing. Well...if y'all are losin'...then who the f&%k is winning??"

And note...this is coming from a white male, Ron Paul supporter.

When I hear other white people whine about how damn tough they think affirmative action makes it for them, I want to vomit. It makes me ashamed of my race and my countrymen.

Just sayin'.

Originally posted by The Old American

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by The Old American
The Constitution doesn't confer or withhold rights from anyone. It only protects rights we have as human beings from infringement by the government.

/TOA

Maybe you. You must be a white male. How nice for you. It does jack squat to protect my rights on the same level and I am pretty sure I am just as human as you.

Poor little victim. Whoa is me. I'm a minority so my rights have automatically been abridged. Tell that to a white guy that can't get a spot at a university because he's white. Stop being a victim and be a leader.

/TOA

...says the white guy who pretty obviously lives a rather sheltered life. What the hell have you done to be a "leader"?

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Of course you would never say Ron Paul's support comes from the pro-Constitutional voting blocks.

You don't seem to have thought through what the real implications of his extreme Constitutionalism would be.

And I'll tell you right now, the Constitution would be followed.

I have thought it through many times since I am one of the minority groups that very constitution refused rights from. I am not really all that interested in going back to a time when I cannot vote or own land.

You're talking about a 'time' and not the document itself.

Did the Constitution specifically deny you the right to own land?

edit on 13-5-2012 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)

No. Actually, the Constitution DOES specifically bestow those rights upon all citizens today.

Ron Paul isn't advocating going back to the ORIGINAL Constitution and summarily disregard all of the Amendments. Quite frankly...I don't think I have ever heard ANYONE advocate that. Clearly, the Constitution allows for Amendment because the original signers KNEW that it wasn't perfect and that times would change. Likewise, the Constitution ALSO expressly states that mere omission does not mean that a citizen does not have a given right not enumerated. Therefore, one's "Constitutional Rights" are ACTUALLY far more protective and broad than even the Bill of Rights stipulates.

Sadly, people STILL think that the only Constitutional Rights they have are the one's enumerated in the Bill of Rights and other Amendments.

Originally posted by sdocpublishing
If only Austin represented the whole state of Texas.

Unfortunately the rest of Texas is so Neo Con Right Wing they see Ron Paul as no less than the antithesis to the Republican Party.

If they only knew how wrong they are.

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Seriously? You think the "neocon right" is going to vote for Romney over Paul?

In what way is Romney more appealing to far-right loonballs?

Originally posted by muzzleflash
It's about showing the slave masters that they better pull the trigger on this mass genocide stuff asap because we are going to strip them of power soon or they will eventually lose it through their own arrogance and poor chess moves or a combination of those.

People are tired of being oppressed. They want to live life, it's the only one we got. It's short and brutal.
Why do the authoritarians always seek to make it worse for everyone when it's so pointless and unnecessary? "

When people are allowed to vote, such as in the primaries, Ron Paul polls at about 11%. in Louisiana he got 6%. In some other places he got as much as 16%. This is far below what Jesse Jackson, Ross Perot, and even George Wallace got during their respective runs. Ron Paul has yet to win ANY primary.

So when you come on here and claim "It's about showing the slave masters" and "People are tired of being oppressed." I guess we can believe that if you want, but the fact is these same people are not seeing Ron Paul as their savior. In other words, you are claiming support you don't have.

People in movements tend to exaggerate their support. Like the "99%." They are nowhere near 99%. According to their calculations, I'm also part of the 99%. I disavow them entirely. A few years ago we had a right wing organization called "The Moral Majority." People in my profession went around with lapel pins that said, "The moral majority is neither." Well, it's the same with the 99%. The 99% aren't 99%. I'll give 'em 10% on a good day.

And as for these "enslaved oppressed masses," they don't even like Ron Paul. They sure won't vote for him.