Did the Integration of the NAZIS in America Caused Ideoligical Contamination of the US Government ?

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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Most People Dont Realise today that Its because of the NAZI Scientists
that America is so Military Advanced

Operation Paperclip didnt bring condemnations or any attention at all
those scientists that were proud Nazi first .. when the US offered them to go to America
they couldnt refuse that invitation

They were still enemy of humanity .. enemy of the US enemy of the world
because they worked with hitler building killing machines
to kill millions of innocents

What did they receive ? .. a free VIP pass to the United States



Look at them all smilly and their rich looks
Pretty sure that even the VIP pass from the US
in their mind .. the enemy was still the US
how many secret meetings they had you thing
to bring the US to its knee one day



I like the part in the video at 1:48 where he say
after raising the fact that even some convicted criminals were hired

THIS RAISE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION .. DID THE INTEGRATION OF NAZIS IN THE COLD WAR AMERICA CAUSED IDEOLOGICAL CONTAMINATION OF GOVERNMENT


I think YES .. it would explain a lot of conspiracies on why the US government
has become totaly dark sided since that




Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program used to recruit the scientists of Nazi Germany for employment by the United States in the aftermath of World War II (1939/45). It was executed by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), and in the context of the burgeoning SovietAmerican Cold War (1945/91) one purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific knowledge and expertise to the USSR.



Although the JIOAs recruitment of German scientists began after the European Allied victory (8 May 1945), US President Harry Truman did not formally order the execution of Operation Paperclip until August 1945. Truman's order expressly excluded anyone found to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism. Said restriction would have rendered ineligible most of the scientists the JIOA had identified for recruitment, among them rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Arthur Rudolph, and the physician Hubertus Strughold, each earlier classified as a menace to the security of the Allied Forces.



To circumvent President Trumans anti-Nazi order, and the Allied Potsdam and Yalta agreements, the JIOA worked independently to create false employment and political biographies for the scientists. The JIOA also expunged from the public record the scientists' Nazi Party memberships and régime affiliations. Once bleached of their Nazism, the US Government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the United States. Paperclip, the projects operational name, derived from the paperclips used to attach the scientists new political personæ to their US Government Scientist JIOA personnel files.




and you have 104 Perfect american scientist citizen easy to promote
that will make advanced weapons to prepare for a possible war with the soviets or else

Since Operation Paperclip ..
70 yrs later .. look what they did to America
Hitler aspirations for power and conquest and domination over the world
no mather the cost .. has been passed down to the US obviously

Operation_Paperclip Wikipedia

If some Nazi ideology remain deep in the USA since Operation Paperclip
What is Israel Zionist part in that .. the country was created right after Hitler death
a country now that his extremely sophisticated and weaponary .. thanks to the US
a country that what to conquer no mather the cost or lies it need to go through
Israel is the perfect proxy state for the US

Did Hitler had this Idea of creating a country for that purpose ?
If the US took most top nazi scientist to the USA with their ideas
they certainly took a look on Hitlers ideas for this invasion of neightboors and sudden war
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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My personal opinion?

I think less than half of the members who frequent this site have a broad enough view to understand what's going on with the government. Because of their desire to point the finger at the person with power, they forget that to make an omelet, a few eggs must be broken.

And if those few eggs save the rest, so be it. That's the general mentality going on. But why is the omelet being made? And how does it benefit the rest of the eggs? What happens after the omelet is consumed?

These are the questions no one has a clear answer to. And these are the questions people are ignoring, because it's easier to accuse than it is to actually sit down and examine the entire picture.
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
My personal opinion?

I think less than half of the members who frequent this site have a broad enough view to understand what's going on with the government. Because of their desire to point the finger at the person with power, they forget that to make an omelet, a few eggs must be broken.

And if those few eggs save the rest, so be it. That's the general mentality going on. But why is the omelet being made? And how does it benefit the rest of the eggs? What happens after the omelet is consumed?

These are the questions no one has a clear answer to. And these are the questions people are ignoring, because it's easier to accuse than it is to actually sit down and examine the entire picture.
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The US changed and lost the Constitution respect in WW2
Since 1945-1947 .. the world has become a dark place
controlled by Evil from the 4 corners of earth



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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hi op
i relised this at around 15yrs old
some of the scientists are mentioned in the berlitz and moore book...
von braun was way ahead of the times
im still looking for solid evidence of the americans finding that train
loaded with gold which went on to fund these secret ops...
speculation of course
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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Simply follow the money, understand who paid for hitlers rise to power and I think you will understand...



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by donlashway
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Simply follow the money, understand who paid for hitlers rise to power and I think you will understand...


Ok lets go further
Who raised hitler to power ?

I think Zionist have Hitler spirit in them
and America is following zionist like a puppet now

The WW2 with Hitler was not coincidential for sure
there is to many anormalities in all it began and when it ended

Tell me more about your though on WW2
thanks



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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hya
hahaha
the treaty of versailles
was script written for ww2



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by davesmart
hya
hahaha
the treaty of versailles
was script written for ww2



The Treaty of Versailles (French: le Traité de Versailles) was one of the peace treaties at the end of World War I. It ended the state of war between Germany and the Allied Powers. It was signed on 28 June 1919, exactly five years after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The other Central Powers on the German side of World War I were dealt with in separate treaties.[1] Although the armistice signed on 11 November 1918, ended the actual fighting, it took six months of negotiations at the Paris Peace Conference to conclude the peace treaty. The treaty was registered by the Secretariat of the League of Nations on 21 October 1919, and was printed in The League of Nations Treaty Series.

Of the many provisions in the treaty, one of the most important and controversial required Germany to accept responsibility for causing the war (along with Austria and Hungary, according to the Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye and the Treaty of Trianon, respectively) and, under the terms of articles 231–248 (later known as the War Guilt clauses), to disarm, make substantial territorial concessions and pay heavy reparations to certain countries that had formed the Entente powers. In 1921 the total cost of these reparations was assessed at 132 billion Marks (then $31.4 billion or £6.6 billion, roughly equivalent to US $442 billion or UK £284 billion in 2012), a sum that many economists at the time, notably John Maynard Keynes, deemed to be excessive and counterproductive and would have taken Germany until 1988 to pay.[2][3] The final payments ended up being made on 4 October 2010,[4] the 20th anniversary of German reunification, and some 92 years after the end of the war for which they were exacted.[5] The Treaty was undermined by subsequent events starting as early as 1932 and was widely flouted by the mid-1930s.[6]




The result of these competing and sometimes conflicting goals among the victors was compromise that left none contented: Germany was not pacified or conciliated, nor permanently weakened. This would prove to be a factor leading to later conflicts, notably and directly World War II.


Treaty of Versailles Wiki

Meaning Germany was left alone for a reason
Some people came up with a plan that having an enemy that have so many potentials

For another round later that will create WW2 and all the conspiracies that comes with it

I think All WW1, 2 and 3(hope not) were orchastrated for a single purpose
The elites certainly have old nazis member in them .. wouldnt surprise me
that even the kids of these member became member themself

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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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If you are interested this article could enlighten you a bit, but a little searching online will find you volumes....
www.rense.com...



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Being that I just formally ended a stay as a doctoral student at UAH, for those that don't know, University of Alabama in Huntsville, I consider myself an authority on this topic.

No...there is no contamination of the US Government by NAZI social or political ideology.

Even though there are many people in Huntsville, Alabama that I consider to be Nazi's and would call Nazi's to their faces if I see them again, those scientists are faithful citizens and only wish to do what they do best...which is design and construct the most comically catastrophic weapons and weapons concepts mankind will ever see.

For military people; If a war breaks out...just hope your scientists have a heritage which includes the Nazi phenomenon...everyone else is just faking it.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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marathon man (hoffman) is calling me to watch lol
was a good film..



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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I would say you are many decades off with your contamination suspicions, you would need to go back to the setting up of the Fed, and maybe further back- the dead National Socialist scientists are not your problem............



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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Operation paperclip was simply necessary.

The allies were all picking over the carcass of the nazi homeland for advantage. The soviets and the British too. For the USA to ignore the knowledge available would have been a gift to stalin and could have affected the outcome of the cold war in a negative way for the west.

Despicable ideology was already breeding in the USA prior to the war. You might want to read this as one example.

en.wikipedia.org...

Its interesting that more and more on here you hear people espousing the 'people are vermin, people are bad mentality'. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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i have known this since i was 12
when i came to the sudden realization that many of the "insane"
experiments performed in the camps had a logic behind them
and the data obtained was used by the space program.
thus putting an end to my dreams and efforts to become an astronaut



i've been at war with the world since then

and i regret to inform you
that the corruption was already well extended
look up the eugenicist movement and the industrialists plot to assassinate FDR
these are the same trash that financed hitler
bayer and other major megacorps are a part of it
the bushes are well up to their necks in it
and papa bush is said to have been seen in Texas
the day JFK was killed
according to one of the remaining black panthers
JFK, RK, MLK, and Malcolm X
were conspiring to mutually assist each other in order to occupy the white house,
each in their turn, in opposition to the abovementioned
[sorry i've been looking for the article on and off for like 5 months will post a thread when i find it again]
but the corruption actually started with manifest destiny if not in the 10 years after the 1st thanksgiving
when the kindness of the natives that saved the pilgrims was repaid with genocide



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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plenty of natives showed "kindndess" to european children by killing them with axes, think on sir with your black and white history



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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they sure did

you'd do the same if somebody came and murdered the women, children, and elderly in your family
while you and all the adult men were away
or when everybody was asleep.

i posted alot more than that, but that's all you saw


gave yourself away there, didn't you?
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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Probably the worst contamination that the Nazis did with Western history was when interviewed their surviving generals to find out how the Eastern Front was fought to get an insight on the Soviets, and was feed the meme of the stupid but never ending Soviet Army and that was why they lost. we got access to both sides archives for a bit and clearer picture of the Eastern front has come out.

But with regards with the paperclip guys? I am not seeing it, I know for alot of people Nazism is shorthand for "policies I don't like" but realistically its a fascist or a cousin to a fascist movement, and the US doesn't have those characteristics last I check. We haven't a had a great leader lead us through blood and violence to achieve some romanticist utopia built on the backs of the subhumans for one.



posted on May, 14 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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In the writings of Bill Lyne the integration of the NAZIS in America caused the start of
the CIA and the full cooperation of hiding powerful inventions if not already enforced
during WWII but more so with any new discoveries. If not already on hand to hide
inventions the media was used to propagandize aliens for their prize possession of
the worlds fastest flying machine. There might have been a few more contaminators
reviewed by Lyne but can't recall them right now.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by justwokeup
Operation paperclip was simply necessary.

The allies were all picking over the carcass of the nazi homeland for advantage. The soviets and the British too. For the USA to ignore the knowledge available would have been a gift to stalin and could have affected the outcome of the cold war in a negative way for the west.


Agreed. The Russians swooped in to Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz and captured a bunch of SS doctors with regards to Nazi bioweapons experiments and chemical weapons experiments. The Russians had gained knowledge from those they captured. Then truckloads of documents pertaining to the different bioweapons and chemical weapons that the Nazis had been experimenting with were burned by SS Dr. Verschuer. That meant that the United Kingdom, France, the United States and Russia had no way to find out what the Nazis had been doing unless they did like the Russians and got ahold of the doctors themselves involved in the experiments. That meant cutting deals with them for information-- hence Project Paperclip.



Mengele injected chemicals into the eyes of children in an attempt to change their eye color. Unfortunately a strict veil of secrecy over the experiments enabled Mengele to do his work more effectively.The full extent of his gruesome work will never be known because the records he sent to Dr. Von Verschuer at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute were shipped out in two truckloads and destroyed by the latter.

from Mengele: Angel of Death


Also Nazi Biowarfare Still Operating

The only thing the US government did wrong was to assume that the Russians had certain doctors which they did not have. Some of the escaped Nazi doctors fled to South America or former German colonies in Africa such as Togoland, Ghana, Cameroon, and South Africa. Those doctors that escaped continued their experiments after WWII in other countries.

Since the US assumed that the Russians had captured such SS doctors and scientists involved in biowarfare and chemical warfare.... they didn't look for them. And since they didn't look for them, the escaped doctors and scientists continued their biowarfare and chemical warfare experiments after WWII. They should have looked for all of them, not just assumed that the Russians had them.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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Say Ben81 this is an interesting topic and on another post you started had a UFO video
that also applies to NAZIS contamination of the US Government in that the video contains
a similar saucer type the CIA handed over to Ernst Zundel under the Freedom Of Information.
Operation Paperclip helped institute the CIA to lord over hiding the saucer craft they started
building. The saucer images are considered unsupportable as secret information would never
be handed over for any Freedom of Information Request.

So the contamination apparently applies to lying about technology.
We can only wonder just how complete the lie is and how much the NAZI started CIA is
testing us on how much we know and how many points their agent get for fooling us.





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