200,000 long-term jobless Americans will lose their unemployment checks this week

Originally posted by popsmayhem
love some taco bell yo
cvs would be an easy job
try hard labor construction work
and roofing.

Actually, construction work ain't a bad idea. Not sure why I haven't thought of that. I even applied to be a farm hand...but not construction. lol

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Germanicus


Its generally the parents fault. People do not choose their parents do they?

It is quite easy to blame others isnt it? I see you do that alot here.

Also,getting skills and education cost money. Not that they seem to be worth much when I read about Americans with massive student debt and they work as janitors. An education isnt worth much when there are few jobs. Especially when its so expensive.

edit on 11-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

You provide excuses for not being responsible.

Please continue. You're validating my point.

Two replies to that post? Yeah,you are right. Its poor peoples fault America is a mess. It has nothing to do with the corporatists that you love so much.

And some people are just not very capable of much. There is nature and nurture isnt there. Some people for whatever reason dont turn out to be very capable.

And how are your mental health services in America? As crap as your welfare system? Who is responsible for those people? Do you tell them to starve to death as well?

reply to post by beezzer

If someone has a poor education who's fault is it?

In the USA it generally goes by where you live. I had no choice but to go to an inner city public school the majority of my life. The quality of the education was beyond deplorable.

Then I was lucky enough to be able to move out into the suburbs. The simple fact that I moved increased my chance of graduating high school by more than 50%. I sit back and wonder sometimes if I didn't have the chance to move, where or what I would be in life. It's actually quite terrifying. Then I think about all the kids that didn't have the same luck I did and I feel an overwhelming sadness.

But I do agree with you, people do need to be personally responsible. But the environment and financial situation does play a huge roll on a persons life and outlook on life. Most people are a product of their environment. Humans are highly suggestible animals.

reply to post by Germanicus


Dude, America isn't even close to the worst of the world. They at least have things to help the impoverished.

I've seen the worst of the world. In places where the government actually DO only work for themselves and the rich and cast the poor aside.

Not saying the system in America is perfect or even good. It's broken. But it could be worse.

reply to post by jhn7537


You act like the US government going broke is caused by the unemployed in the US, when in reality the unemployment in the US is caused by the US government. Give your head a shake. It is the policies of the government and their ties to the central bank that is and will continue to bring the economy in the US to it's knees. You cannot give constant bailouts to any corporations on the scale and frequency that is demanded by the central bank and expect it not to have an effect on the economy as a whole.

Originally posted by beezzer
Safety nets, safety valves are designed to aid those that have fallen.

But remember, safety nets were NOT designed to help you succeed.

Your sentences are often confusing.(i cant spell and have poor grammer so dont feel bad)

And when do I mention a "net" ?

I said valve. Welfare releases the pressure. Ever watched clips of the riots in America in the Great Depression? That what America is creating again.

Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by popsmayhem
im sorry their unemployment
is gone, but how long do they expect
it to last though? i understand
a safety net but my god it cant go on forever

sure it can "Print baby Print"

heard China is going to move in and set up shop
www.abovetopsecret.com...

stinking commies, them chinese
aint no good... I wonder how long
they get unemployment for..

OH THEY dont get any thats right

Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot

Originally posted by popsmayhem
love some taco bell yo
cvs would be an easy job
try hard labor construction work
and roofing.

Actually, construction work ain't a bad idea. Not sure why I haven't thought of that. I even applied to be a farm hand...but not construction. lol

Trust me it aint all it
is put up to be...

Unless you could work for the county
and off the gov. teet them guys
got it made.
your trash man has it made..
unemployment can only last so long
i do not see the issue except a socialist
commie agenda to suck the system dry..

reply to post by popsmayhem


China isn't communist.

I had my own business for 10yrs when the clowns on Wall Street tanked the economy. My clients started folding and contracting as their businesses strated drying-up. In the Spring of 2008 when my world was starting to come apart I was asured by Pres Bush and John McCain that 'fundamentals of the country's economy were sound'. Apparently they were significantly mistaken.

My income from my consulting business was a healthy six-figures for all those years. Long before it tanked I started looking for work 7-days-a-week. I was registered on every professional job site, had professional recruiters and scoured every website that had job listings. I wasn't able to find a job until Fall of 2010 Over 2yrs of looking). I am very highly skilled with a ton of experience in a field that has a dearth of talent. Naturally there was no unemployment for me. I was sending out resumes by the dozens and if I could get 1 interview every 3-4mos I was doing great.

Over two years to find a job? What a loser I am, uh? Not everything works the way people of that mindset seem to think it does. I was fortunate to be back making six-figures. But I was in no way holding out. My wife and I came a hairs-breadth of losing our home. I sold everything I could to pay bills. In the winter we were buying diesel 5gal at a time to keep the heat on cause we couldnt pay for an oil delivery. I tried applying at every kind of place you can name: WalMart, fast food restaurants, other entry-level jobs but because I' always held high-level jobs no one would even talk to me. I begged on more than one occasion. No way. So it isn't always that easy for reasons you may not necessarily understand.

I have a very close friend and colleague. He works in the same industry as I do. He has been looking for 3yrs. He's gotten a few part-time consulting gigs but cannot find a fulltime job. No unemployment for him either. There are so few jobs in his field and so many people looking the odds are stacked against him.

My wife is a highly skilled real estate paralegal with a great many years under her belt. She had her hours cut-back to part-time. Wanting fulltime she's found herself competing with out-of-work lawyers taking paralegal gigs.

So, my friends, it's not always so clear-cut. The real world doesn't start and stop at your doorstep.

Yeah, the Republicans want to be rid of unemployment benefits, cut medicaid and medicare, ditch welfare, et cetera. Instead of decreasing military spending for their war machine, they'd rather see people here in the U.S do without. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

reply to post by Germanicus


I'm not complaining about the poor.. I'm complaining about a government that feeds the beast.

I believe like you that people should get help - but it should come from their communities and not a federal government that keeps them on the financial morphine drip.

reply to post by RealSpoke


If a gardener is growing a poor crop because he sucks at his job, it's notte fault of the carrots.

If the political leaders in these communities are overseeing a poor environment of learning, you don't blame the students.

In the first sentence, poeple would immediately replace the gerdener.

In the second, the "gardener" is constantly re-elected.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by popsmayhem

 

China isn't communist.

what are they?

reply to post by popsmayhem


China is a single-party republic ruled by the Communist Party.

So, yes, they are Communist.

Originally posted by Germanicus
And I wouldnt steal anything unless its from an Insurance Corporation or something. And I dont hurt anyone.

= "Insurance fraud is OK and it doesn't hurt anyone"

Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot
reply to post by Germanicus

 

Dude, America isn't even close to the worst of the world. They at least have things to help the impoverished.

I've seen the worst of the world. In places where the government actually DO only work for themselves and the rich and cast the poor aside.

Not saying the system in America is perfect or even good. It's broken. But it could be worse.

Compare your welfare system to most Western countries and see how it stacks up. You will also notice that the people in other countries do not hate the poor like so many in America do. Also our media doesnt go on and on about welfare. Most countries have far more empathy than America.

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by popsmayhem

 

China isn't communist.

what are they?

State Capitalist.

Originally posted by Germanicus

Personally, I dont have a problem with this at all. Unemployment is supposed to be more of a safety net, not a long term solution.

So what happens to these people now? What will they do?

And dont you care?

Edit- I find the basic lack of empathy in America to be disturbing. And it seems to go beyond a lack of empathy. It seems many Americans delight in the misfortunes of others.

Also,there are no jobs. Your corporate overlords sent them all to China and India. What are these poor people going to do?

edit on 11-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

Edit- Do any other countries in the West have such a terrible cruel welfare system? I have never heard of one.

edit on 11-5-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

LL
don't worry
mr "i don't have a problem"
will soon have a problem
upon encountering some of the desperately unemployed
some night, probably while picking his teeth coming out of a 4 or 5 star restaurant

sweeping the unemployment problem using the trick described by another poster won't work
people hidden under rugs tend to make large bumps
mr "i don't have a problem" will soon be tripping over them,
because he'd rather not see them

Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot
reply to post by popsmayhem

 

China is a single-party republic ruled by the Communist Party.

So, yes, they are Communist.

exactly, i think that other
guy is still looking through wiki