reply to post by PhysicsAdept
For example: if you take a system like welfare, both conservatives and liberals agree that some people both need and deserve help. Whether it
is in finding a job, getting health benefits, food to eat, every person deserves chances to get their life o track. Then you have both parties also
agreeing that the system we have in place is abused... The conservatives exaggerate it and the liberals overlook some of the cons due to pride issues
on both sides... but the simple fact is that the system we have put into place is not really satisfying either party or helping the right people
(overall, not for every case).
So then, the question is, how do you go about a system like welfare? Vote conservatively and act liberally. Put someone into office that requires
everyone to have to try... Make it socially unacceptable to abuse help and make everyone need to work in order to survive... Make competition
something that is encouraged and reward harder workers with more benefits. Above all else, don't force anyone to pay taxes and dump money into
programs that "help" other people. Make this, instead, choice. Morality, then, needs to be slightly reformed. As a child, if you are raised in a
liberal fashion, then when your neighbor needs help, it should be your moral duty to help that person. Both Christians and liberals should already do
this, yet who has the money to when they are forced to spend so much on taxes and entitlement programs? HELP THY NEIGHBOR, and support the welfare of
your family, that should be the goal.
Morality doesn't need reform, it needs to be taught, period. On this, I would agree. Welfare has to be an item of last result, not a career
choice.
Help your community, and delegate your funds locally... This is where we should be liberal as human beings. Promote freedom of speech and
accept all others, but do not abuse the power of speech... Regulate your families in how they conduct their lives, but do not tell others how to live
it. Help who you think needs to be helped, but don't force others to help you...
Self-determination, I like this. Also teach that, while you may be free to speak, others are also free to NOT listen.
A more communal sense of living and a harder-working country CAN be achieved. Our school system is failing because it is run too liberally. BUT
our education system is failing because it is run to conservatively. Our neighborhoods are failing because our schools and education systems are
failing, and our country is failing because of a lack of morality. WE CAN FIX THIS. We need to start voting for freedom, and we need to start teaching
our children values, hard work, acceptance, and the power of caring for those around you.
A wee issue. Communal living loses individuality. Instead of communal (if it's just semantics) I'd say partnerships.
Our school system is run too liberally, AND our education system is spending too liberally. Instead of paying teacher union reps and scool
superintendents 6 figure salaries, turn that into the schools for quality teachers. Make teachers accountable. Make parents accountable.
Government has said that it's okay to have the schools, a "villiage", raise your child.
Nope.
It takes parents.
Partisanship is doom... Set aside pride. It is time to start the revolution. LET PEOPLE LIVE AS THEY WANT TO! But don't expect me to pay for
them to live unless I know who they are...
Agreed.
I can only hope that what I have said makes any sense. I have thoughts on this, but it isn't just easy to express them by talking to myself.
If something I say isn't clear, please let us discuss this further and I know everyone could see my point.
Hmmm. On closer examination, it appears that I agree with you more than I initially thought.
Don't know if you'll appreciate this or not, but what you propose runs along Tea Party lines and not the more modern definition of "liberal".
In a nutshell;
Personal responsibility
Individuality
Self-determination.
Apologies for the length of the post, but what "liberal" attributes would you also consider?
