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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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I am not very knowledgeable of physics and I have a question that I hope you guys can help me to understand. Please do not bash me for lack of knowledge.

So here it goes...

Why don't the protons in the nucleus of atoms repel each other and essentially break apart the nucleus? How is the nucleus held together? I know electrons have an opposite charge but they are not in the nucleus. What I am looking for is an explanation of the mechanics of this phenomenon.

Thank you in advance ATSers




posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:19 AM
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According to the mainstream model, there is more than one type of energy.

Protons as you are aware have a positive charge, we can see this by the way they move through a magnetic field. This repelling charge however does not come into play when the protons are very close together, new forms of energy come into play, these are the strong and weak nuclear forces.

This nuclear energy is what gave rise to to nuclear explosives using neutrons, since neutrons have no charge they can be knocked out from a nucleus causing a chain reaction.

hope that helps.

Personally I do not believe this is accurate, I believe there are different levels of gravity. For example,

Our solar system orbits the galactic center and has a galactic level of gravity.
Our planet orbits the sun and has a solar level of gravity
Electrons orbit the nucleus and I believe have an atomic level of gravity.

This is just my personal opinion from what work I have done. But I believe its a valid one.

I call the bonding "Atomic Gravity"


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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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It does help. Thank you for contributing



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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I am not a specialist in physics I but do like the subject since it deals with energy. So I will try. From what I observe the neutrons create a NET or field around the positive charged protons which keeps the negative charged field from the electrons sustained or attached to the proton field. This neutron positive charged NET seems to prevent interference between the 2 proton-electron energies. It encapsulates the proton field somewhat becoming a positive net which in turn attracts the negative electron field bonding the proton-electron fields as an atom preventing proton repel activities due to them being trapped in neutron NET.

NAMASTE*******
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by micmerci
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It does help. Thank you for contributing


Your welcome


I would like to expand on my hypothesis if I may.

Recently, the voyager spacecraft reached the outer solar system and encountered "magnetic bubbles", these magnetic bubbles I believe give my theory on atomic gravity a little weight. I believe these magnetic bubbles are a result of the "Galactic Gravity Level" I mentioned. This is I believe will help uncover the link between gravity and electromanetism.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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The strong force (which Democide introduced you to) responsible for holding protons and neutrons together is actually just what's left over after the most of the strong force is used to hold quarks together to form those protons and neutrons.

Protons and neutrons are made of three quarks each. These quarks are held together by the strong force, which is mediated by force particles (bosons) called gluons.
Then, just like our Sun's gravity is still felt outside of the main Solar System, the strong force that hold the quarks together is still felt outside of each individual proton and neutron. In fact, the strong force is still so strong outside each proton and neutron that it holds these protons and neutrons together.

The origin, strength, and nature of the strong force are described by Quantum Chromodynamics.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by micmerci
I am not very knowledgeable of physics and I have a question that I hope you guys can help me to understand. Please do not bash me for lack of knowledge.

So here it goes...

Why don't the protons in the nucleus of atoms repel each other and essentially break apart the nucleus? How is the nucleus held together? I know electrons have an opposite charge but they are not in the nucleus. What I am looking for is an explanation of the mechanics of this phenomenon.

Thank you in advance ATSers


In one word: Cohesion

There are four properties of matter that produce the world around us: Cohesion, Adhesion, Attraction and Repulsion. Energy is information. Energy bonds are created by links of information starting at the root. Photons start in roots of three. Like language, the roots form links in chains of sequences. The roots form larger chains. The chains then form larger quantities. Combinations form by polarity.

You are reading an example of this process of information in various forms expressing the root of information and energy to a form you bond with by cohesion. The computer is a good example of how this works in nature. All of this is due to the trinity of light. Light is not simply particle and wave. Light is Particle, Wave and Consciousness. Consciousness is spirit and spirit is the Cohesion, Adhesion, Attraction and Repulsion of vibrations in the form of streaming information. We are a construct of consciousness information. The Spirit is the Energy and the Soul is the modem that connects your essence (Root) to the material form of spirit in motion.

The Hebrew language consists of 22 letters that form roots to make words and sentences. Hebrew is concrete. Greek is the abstract language of 24 letters. Each letter represents the equation that forms the links in the chain. Combine these two languages and you get 46 letter. The human genome is comprised of two sets of 22 chromosomes. Additionally, there are 2 sex chromosomes. Combined, they equal 46. When the links in the chains are formed by the 22 amino acid roots, we get sentences of proteins that form the body. The Spirit is the information that streams this information to form in the material world. When complete, we have a dual nature to our mind and body. One part is concrete and literal. The other part is abstract. When the two become one, we transcend the material world of form and substance.

Knowing God is the union of spirit and soul in a bond of cohesion. This is accomplished by WORD, but not without love. Love is the bond that brings the two together. Light and darkness cannot occupy the same space and repel each other. This is a metaphysical mathematical concept know as impenetrability.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

God is Light and Father

Jesus is Son and Word (Wave)

Holy Spirit is Consciousness

We are the cohesion of all three--Matter, both particle and wave, combined with spirit (Consciousness). These are formed into an image of energy in motion (Light Quanta / Photons combined in links of information with meaning and purpose).

Genesis 1:27

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

We are 'INSIDE' the image created by God in the form of energy. We are also the image of God in this trinity of light. How?

Genesis 1:1-3

In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy).

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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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At short distances (less than 1.7 fm or so), the nuclear force is stronger than the Coulomb force between protons; it thus overcomes the repulsion of protons inside the nucleus. However, the Coulomb force between protons has a much larger range due to its decay as the inverse square of charge separation, and Coulomb repulsion thus becomes the only significant force between protons when their separation exceeds about 2 to 2.5 fm.


en.wikipedia.org...

Why this would happen can only be associated with the neutrons.
Hydrogen a one proton atom, no problem.
Helium has 2 protons and 2 neutrons that set up a space for attraction.
Experiments with matter have shown under different vibrations bodies can attract
or can force the bodies apart.



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