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Pet Dogs Arrested in Iran

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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by The X
Islam, medieaval?, surely not.

Why are you blaming Islam when it was one country? Let's also blame Christianity as Mass-Murderers because of the Crusades.




posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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You don't know the half of it.

Muslims hate dogs even worse than their women.

Dogs in the Middle East have it bad.

Knew a woman in Lebanon that ran a rescue animal shelter and some of the stories about what Muslims do to dogs is beyond cruel.

The forgotten dogs of the Middle East.

In Lebanon, on Tuesdays the police go to the city dump and target practice on the starving dogs that scrounge around for food. That is their animal control.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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hi
do you remember that thread last year
the one with skinning of live dogs and cats
cant find it, but it was horrific
at the end a dog is skinned alive .....
it looks into the camera..its a heart wrenching one...



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
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No need to yell. God I cant stand when people use upper case. Its rude.

And if you think I was claiming that all Chinese eat eggs soaked in the urine of young boys then I dont know what to say. Im not generalizing at all.

I can say Australians like beer. They do for the most part,but Im not saying they all do.


I put it in uppercase because you seem to be blind, or just incapable of understanding the word generalizing. It wasn't any more rude then completely diverting from an argument because you had no defense for it.

And yes you did say that. You should try saying "most" or "some" Chinese eat those eggs, or "some" Australians like beer. Actually its funny because I am Australian and I dont like beer.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Back in the '60s, I was what was then (sickeningly) referred to as a 'Jesus Freak'. That is, a hippie who had found religion. But it was a good place to be because... there was no free drugs or sex and we all worked our young butts off 6 days a week.

Along the way, I found this small/mid sized terrier dog living in the wild in the large park across the street. I adopted her, taught her to stay near the 'house' and fed her daily. But when the freak counsel found out I had a dog... they freaked. The dog and I were both kicked out because the bible specifically disliked dogs... in their interpretation.

Anyway, I wound my way about... from cult to group until finally going home and joining the army... which I had vowed not to do. When I got my first liberty and came home without all the hair and wearing the uniform... my dog, the one I had saved, bit me twice.

Maybe God was right


Best

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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Jakes51
Personally, I think this is ridiculous. Who am I to judge? It is their culture and if they want to detain someone's pet for whatever reason? Who is going to stop them? I have seen this thread turn into a cats vs. dogs debate. I will say that I am more partial to cats, but have had a few dogs along the way. Cats in my humble opinion are far more intelligent, dignified, more sanitary, and regal compared to their slobbering, aloof, and noisy counterparts. Just my opinion of course, and we all know opinions are like that area in your drawers that everyone seems to have. To each their own.

I feel bad for the owners that are getting harassed, unduly fined, and having their pet seized for nothing more than rubbing the religious leadership the wrong way. Perhaps, they can make appeals to their local imams to broker on their behalf with the religious authorities? I realize that traditionally dogs are considered unclean among Muslims. If I recall, the Prophet Muhammed owned a cat by the name of Muezza?

However, they do serve a purpose such herding cattle, guarding one's home, and are quite good at finding things people are trying to hide like narcotics and explosive materials. All I am saying is dogs have their benefits for their respective owners. What is the harm for someone to own a pet dog, and walking it in the park as long is it is well taken care of and properly trained? It is their culture and tradition and not mine.


Would you have turned the other cheek when the Jews were being killed in concentration camps in Nazi Germany? Would you have said "its their culture, not mine." Im just pointing out a flaw in your basic argument that a culture is entitled to continue its actions just because it is a culture. Its an inconsistent argument.

I'm not just talking about Iran here. But any culture or religion that has immoral practices, should not be allowed to practice them.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorMobius
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OK cats are sun gods and all that but in reality they don't do a darn thing.
Seeing eye cats? Bomb sniffing cats? CANCER sniffing cats? family guard cats?
Nope just lazy cats who lie around all day and track feces on your furniture. Heads up you probably have toxoplasmosis by the way.


You are wrong on that one. One of my cats a rather feisty little thing, that is very serious about everything. At first she didnt show that she really cared for us much. We would just feed her and she would do her stuff.

However, one day I entered my room to find a dead rat at the feet of my cat. And she was just sitting there meowing at me, like she was waiting for me. She had killed a rat that was almost bigger then her, and dragged it through my window that is 3 feet off the ground. That in itself amazed me. So she brought the kill back to her "pack" for all of us to feed. As a payback for all the times we fed her.

Way I see it. Both dogs and cats have demonstrated reciprocative action that indicates friendship.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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This is done all the time in many places.

Some of our UGH Boots I am told that came out of China when analyzed, were of dog skin.

This is how we treat a species that has hunted with us, sniffs for bombs, drugs, guns, rescues people caught under rubble after a earthquake, guards us and helps our police.

Why am I such a advocate for dogs?

In my 59 years of life I have never been betrayed by any of the countless dogs I have had the honor to share my life with or be a part of.

I cannot say that about my own species.

Dogs love unconditionally.....................you could be a millionaire, beautiful, rock star one day and a homeless, ugly nothing the next year and your dog would not issue a divorce or leave you.

People have agendas, like "House" says, "Everyone (human) lies..................dogs don't.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Germanicus
Its just their culture.

I dont like dogs much either. They are dumb compared to a cat. And they are dirty.


I like dogs and that is my country's culture.

Actually, you are mistaken that dogs are dumb compared to cats. Have you taught your cats any good tricks recently?

Its not that cats don't want to learn tricks. They are just not intelligent enough to understand what you are trying to do.



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Cats dont do tricks because its beneath them

They also dont chase cars or bark at lawnmowers or a million other dumb things dogs do.

You can also leave a cat for two weeks and it will feed itself.

Dogs are just dirty inbred morons at the end of the day.

Edit- I used to own a Staffie that I got for my ex-girlfriends son. He wasnt the best dog owner so the dog became mine. I loved it. I like dogs sort of but they really are dirty. And cats are smarter.
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but dogs do ignore laser-pointers, and have you ever seen the way a cat chases the light-dot from a laser-pointer???? Hilarious, but oh, so cruel.......
Even though I feel very guilty about putting my one cat through it, it was so funny to see her chasing after that little red dot, but that was many years ago. (Please God, don't lead me into that temptation again).

but my cat had her revenge a couple of months later (except, I don't think she viewed it as revenge, but rather as giving me a nice, big rat for lunch). Can you imagine, me being late for work, just shutting my briefcase close, rushing off for a meeting at work, storming into the meeting room, opening my case to hand out my presentations to everybody (including our MD and some VIP's from our international clients), and on top of it all, was this huge, dead rat. The blood from the rat was all over the papers. I guess my cat must have thought that I do need to have breakfast (never ate breakfast myself), and gave me this huge rat for breakfast. I guess my managers were more upset, but I was just embarrassed, and a bit flattered. Ahhhh, my cute little cat cares for me ....
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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Not all cultures are equal. Dog's are only dirty if you don't wash them. The Japanese do kill too many whales, dolphins too. I suppose you're for cultures that oppress women also?



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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Some of our UGH Boots I am told that came out of China when analyzed, were of dog skin.


OH MY

No wonder I hated those.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Hellhound604

Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Germanicus
Its just their culture.

I dont like dogs much either. They are dumb compared to a cat. And they are dirty.


I like dogs and that is my country's culture.

Actually, you are mistaken that dogs are dumb compared to cats. Have you taught your cats any good tricks recently?

Its not that cats don't want to learn tricks. They are just not intelligent enough to understand what you are trying to do.



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Cats dont do tricks because its beneath them

They also dont chase cars or bark at lawnmowers or a million other dumb things dogs do.

You can also leave a cat for two weeks and it will feed itself.

Dogs are just dirty inbred morons at the end of the day.

Edit- I used to own a Staffie that I got for my ex-girlfriends son. He wasnt the best dog owner so the dog became mine. I loved it. I like dogs sort of but they really are dirty. And cats are smarter.
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but dogs do ignore laser-pointers, and have you ever seen the way a cat chases the light-dot from a laser-pointer???? Hilarious, but oh, so cruel.......
Even though I feel very guilty about putting my one cat through it, it was so funny to see her chasing after that little red dot, but that was many years ago. (Please God, don't lead me into that temptation again)


"Some" dogs dont chase laser pointers, enough generalizing. Mine does
, I also have a nice laser pointer.
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Why can't everyone just say both dogs and cats are cool and that they both help people?




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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Cats vomit fur balls and bring you back dead things. That's not very clean.

They also kill my pet bunnies. Bastards.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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I do agree that both cats and dogs are cool. They both can demonstrate friendship. However, why help people?Most people caused their problems, or other people did. Point is that dogs and cats are suffering and most of them didnt cause it. So to me, dogs and cats deserve help before people do.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lionhearte
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Cats vomit fur balls and bring you back dead things. That's not very clean.

They also kill my pet bunnies. Bastards.


They only bring you back dead things because they care about you.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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you are so lucky, my dogs just looked at me, as to say "Duhhhhhhh", whereas the cats went totally bananas (do you know that term?) over the laser pointer.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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What exactly are they doing with the dogs? Just putting them in cages? What are they going to do with them? Release them? I own a dog, I love dogs but I love them so much that I would like to see them free. They do not belong in a house, they belong with other dogs out in a open space. Same as cats, they are just domesticated.
People treat pet animals as if they wear made mind and take orders like a slave. If you own a pet let it be, dont boss it around. IT IS A EQUAL!!! Most people will say they realize that but they do not act it. Pets have emotions as well.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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They can still help people and not suffer ie; seeing eye dogs, dogs that smell cancer, therapy cats/dogs



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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