Originally posted by sir_slide
That is in my opinion a very silly opinion in regards to the aborigines. What you fail to see is that they have no need for our western trinkets and
were far more happy when we were not around, they had been peaceful and content for thousands of years.
I fear this is romanticised thinking. "They have no need for out western trinkets" -- so you're saying that if we took every western thing back
from the Aboriginal people of Australia, they would be ok with this? Mobile phones, Internet, TV, Music, Fridges, Stoves, Houses, Cars???
You do know that they're not all sitting outback around a camp fire sharing roasted goanna tail, right??
There is an estimated 300,000 Aborigines in Western Australia alone, and the majority of them live in urban society. Even those in remote communities
still use the facilities there.
It's not a case of simply giving them an entire chunk of land and then cutting ties with them. Ever time something along those lines has been tried,
they've failed to sustain it, and the world then sees run down tin shacks, dogs eating next to babies, and a complete breakdown of culture within
Then we arrive, introduce alcohol, kill loads of them, get them sick and basically force a way of life on them that they neither asked for or
want in any way whatsoever. I used to live in an area of melbourne where loads of aborigines live and I can tell you first hand that they would be FAR
better off if we had never landed on their shores, they are really struggling, with alcohol, drugs, violence and a general disconnection from their
true selves. It is horrible to see and I just cannot listen to an opinion such as yours and not respond.
So what do we do? Pack up and head back to limey? As with Melbourne, WA has a disproportionate amount of Aboriginal people living well under the
poverty line, despite over and above services offered to them to help maintain a standard of living. I know personally a family who somehow managed to
make it in this world. So what is the problem.
Is it 100% definable, or like every other person in Australia, is it variable on them, their circumstances, their determination??
Can you tell me one person alive today who'd say they would rather have never existed - that's the case had things been different at the start. In
fact, Indonesia or some other country would have simply invaded and you can bet they would not be supporting the Indigenous people in any where near
the same manner as is done today.
So... what do we do? Continue to lament the past and perpetuate the legacy of impoverishment and abuse? Or fix what we can... because that is all we
can realistically do.
Land will not resolve the problem. Money seems to be disregarded. Yet my cousins family have neither land nor money in quantities to make a
difference, and still they have 2 cars, 4 kids in school, playing footy, mucking around on facebook like most kids, and most importantly, somehow
evading that trap that lures most young Aboriginal children into a life of crime and imprisonment.
What is the difference I wonder, apart from self determination..
I feel terrible about what has happened to them, not that other nations have not also committed such barbaric and inconsiderate acts as us, not
at all, although what happened on this land was one of the worst genocides in human history, and you say that they are better off.
I haven't personally noticed much animosity towards Aussies on ats although I do find that many consider us to be racist and xenophobic, which is
kinda funny as we have an incredibly multicultural country. I find that people generally think of us as easy going, fun, big drinking types, well
thats the perception I get when I go overseas.
I had a mate many years ago who met an American chick on some chatroom, got so infatuated with her that he left Australia to go be with her, it lasted
1 week max, yet he managed to remain gainfully employed over there working in bars and so on, putting on the strongest Aussie accent as he could,
because he said people there just couldnt get enough of it. Lol, born with 100% charisma that idiot...
Life got him in the end tho..