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Six of one, Half a dozen of the other, Send a Message instead

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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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Perhaps one of the biggest conspiracies in US Politics is that the powers that be have successfully brainwashed the public into thinking they can ONLY vote for one of two candidates for President.

To put it frankly, it's nonsense.

For this next election, whether you go Democrat or Republican, Obama or Romney, you'll end up in exactly the same position...a corporate puppet in the White House.

So, since it really doesn't matter anyhow, as one of these jokers is going to be President (likely Obama again), why not use your vote to send a REAL message? Vote for someone you'd actually WANT as President. Do a write in if they aren't on the ballot.

There's no "wasting" a vote this election, as either way, we're getting a douchebag...so why not simply send a message instead...that we, the American public, have wised up to this tactic, and will not have choices rammed down our throats. We CAN choose who we want, without being TOLD who we're voting for.




posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Maybe I would like to have a smart douchebag instead of an old douchebag as long as we are using metaphores.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Jerry White is a better option than Ron Paul.

Opinion polls can change over night. The SEP could still make a mark.

Its time to send a message to the duopoly.


Jerry White, 52, has been active in the socialist movement for more than three decades. White was raised in a working class family in Queens, New York. In 1979, he joined the Workers League, the predecessor of the Socialist Equality Party, while working at United Parcel Service and attending the City University of New York. White was won to the Trotskyist movement—and its perspective of world socialism—at the age of 19. From then on he dedicated his life to the fight to resolve the crisis of revolutionary leadership in the working class.

socialequality.com...

Since Obama’s election, White has played a major role in the SEP’s fight against the administration’s attack on auto workers, during the mass protests in Wisconsin, and the Occupy Wall Street protests, and the struggle of locked-out Cooper Tire workers in Ohio.

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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Vote for someone you'd actually WANT as President. Do a write in if they aren't on the ballot.


But I actually do WANT Obama as President.

He matches up the best with my personal beliefs and opinions. The fact is that we have a two party system because for the most part most Americans can match their personal beliefs to one of the two parties.

IF there were a candidate that better represented my views, I would vote for them...but there is not in this election.

But don't you see that your type of thinking is just as much part of the problem? You have basically called anyone who does truly support Obama or Romney a brainwahsed puppet who doesn't think for themselves...that their candidate of choice is a "joker". While you have that nice shiny Ron Paul banner in your sig...and conveniently you didn't call Ron Paul a "joker". Now...I wonder who you are suggesting people to vote for if they don't want to be considered a sheep who just follows what the media tells them to do???

I will vote for Obama, because I support him just as you support Ron Paul.
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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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i agree with you. this coming election is unique because i think its not really about who you like or who is poplular but who is Right and who is Wrong.

its a no-brainer. yet most people dont see it.
they are all too busy lining up for the latest smart-phones or watching re-runs of jersey shore.

sad



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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I'm coming around to think those who do not fall into the single/pseudo-dual party mold should stop trying to convince the mass (I'll refer to them as the lowest common denominator rather than "sheeple" because that's what they are) and come to terms with the fact that they are a disenfranchised minority who has been consistently oppressed for the better part of a century.

Stop worrying about who the LCD's elect. Stop worrying about the laws/regs/extortion/wars the LCD representatives wage and create a new life.

It's a civil rights style fight all its own.

Take a hint from Malcolm X. They (the LCD's) dont care about the minority. They'd sooner lock them all up or execute them then make allowances for them or allow them to live their lives the way they see fit.

Either a new land is found or a new land is made. Seeing as how every inch of this globe is violently defended by some mass of LCD's that leaves only one option.

A new land must be made.


It's time now for you and me to become more politically mature and realize what the ballot is for; what we're supposed to get when we cast a ballot; and that if we don't cast a ballot, it's going to end up in a situation where we're going to have to cast a bullet. It's either a ballot or a bullet.

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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
i agree with you. this coming election is unique because i think its not really about who you like or who is poplular but who is Right and who is Wrong.

its a no-brainer. yet most people dont see it.
they are all too busy lining up for the latest smart-phones or watching re-runs of jersey shore.

sad



What is sad, or scary, is that some people think there is a "right" or "wrong" in politics.

I have my own opinions and preferences and you have yours...who are you to tell me that mine are "wrong"???

This type of thinking is what is wrong with politics...it is complete divisiveness. Because you know what...you are sitting there thinking you are 100% completely in the "right" and everyone else is "wrong"...but there is another person with opposite views of you that thinks the exact same thing.

Until we can all realize that no one is "right" or "wrong"...and we have attitudes like this and the OPs....there will alwasy be division and will continue to not be able to work together.
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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

What is sad, or scary, is that some people think there is a "right" or "wrong" in politics.

I have my own opinions and preferences and you have yours...who are you to tell me that mine are "wrong"???


But that's all politicians do. The majority (usually a pathetically slim majority around 50+ %) chooses a representative to dictate what they perceive is "wrong" to that minority.

Both of those groups, the majority and the lesser majority, dictate what is wrong to a lesser minority.

Politicians are the stick with which the lowest common denominator beats down the things it doesnt like.

ETA: It's no coincidence that a government elected by the LCD's is responsible for segregation, internment, immigration restrictions, employment restrictions, marriage control, disarming of poor people....

Government is the most fearful, hateful and racist institution on the planet and it's because the LCD's who it represents are hateful, fearful and racist.

One only has to take a passing glance at current candidate rhetoric to see it's all about fear and hate. With a twist. They argue the "other guy" fears you and hates you more.
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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Now...I wonder who you are suggesting people to vote for if they don't want to be considered a sheep who just follows what the media tells them to do???


If one honestly feels Obama or Romney will best represent them, then more power to them. However, for those who don't like either choice to then vote for them...those are the ones I'm suggesting should do a write in. And no, not just for Paul...for ANYONE they feel would best represent them as President.

I don't agree with all of Ron Paul's stances either. However, I feel the majority of his positions match mine, so I feel he would best represent my interests. That said, I feel that realistically, he has ZERO chance of becoming President, but I also feel it is my civic duty to a) make my voice heard, and b) help to send a message to Washington that we're starting to realize we aren't forced to choose between the two they put up to us. If someone else gets 5% or more of the vote, that's a pretty clear message. 10% or more, and it's practically throwing it in their faces.


I will vote for Obama, because I support him just as you support Ron Paul.


Then I applaud you for voting for who you feel best represents you. My main focus is for those who don't strongly support one or the other, but then end up voting for one of them because otherwise they feel they are "wasting" their vote. They feel they are FORCED to make a choice between the two, when it isn't the case.


Maybe I would like to have a smart douchebag instead of an old douchebag as long as we are using metaphores.


Just because someone is smart, doesn't mean they would be the best man to represent me. I never said Romney or Obama were dumb. Romney's smart and cleverly steals millions from taxpayers. Obama's smart in spending 4 years doing nothing, and yet still convincing folks he's the man for the job. Both are highly intelligent, but that's not my preferred qualification. It's all academic anyhow, when Obama is giving his second Inaugural Address next Jan.
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posted on May, 10 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Well

Considering the news of that prison inmate getting 41% of the vote without the political backing and press coverage.

Seems that this is a very real possibility.



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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YES I agree.
I will go on to say, I am convinced the the presidency is predetermined. Meaning, the past presidents, current president and next president has been chosen by the people that control our country and the world for that matter. Call them what you will TPTB, illumunati, bankers, the military industrial complex, bilderburg, 1% or dark cabal. The name is not important, they are the people that control our lives and have enslaved us through dept, patriotism, religion, bigotry, fear, hate, war, "natural" disasters,TV and MSM brainwashing.

I tell everyone who is unfortunated enough to engage me with the question "Who ya votin' for?"
That I am voting for RON PAUL. I hold no illusion that he will win. My rational being to keep my concious clear and to go on record as not being responsible for helping to elect either the left or right wing of the turkey I refer to as "Obamney" (both puppets in the theater of grand illusion)

Even though I get the uneasy feeling my vote will be changed via "electronic ballot tabulation" anyway



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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The voting machines will be programmed with the proper algorythim or whatever, and the votes will count up however suspiciously for the one who paid the most , and promised the most.... backsheesh.
he will represent the companies and people with the most money and influence....
this is , after all, the ...........American way.......................



posted on May, 10 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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I'm going to vote for whomever will benefit me and my family the most.

Plain and simple.

Kinda like me.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher


Vote for someone you'd actually WANT as President. Do a write in if they aren't on the ballot.


But I actually do WANT Obama as President.

He matches up the best with my personal beliefs and opinions.


Well, that may be, however ....what about the rest of the country, you know
that has to work for a living, and pay taxes?

As the OP mentions, its time to vote for a real person of character.

Ron Paul did not bully anyone in grade school, he did not bully in high school...
differing from Obama and Romney who both have media write ups right now
....apologizing for past behavior, dodging reports of frightening girls in school
and other malicious behavior, past drug abuse and other disgusting behaviors!

Vote Ron Paul....even if you have to write him in.

We need a real man for President, not another drugstore prodcut!
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posted on May, 11 2012 @ 12:42 AM
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Well, that may be, however ....what about the rest of the country, you know
that has to work for a living, and pay taxes?




Are you suggesting I don't work or pay taxes???




Ron Paul did not bully anyone in grade school, he did not bully in high school...
differing from Obama and Romney who both have media write ups right now
....apologizing for past behavior, dodging reports of frightening girls in school
and other malicious behavior, past drug abuse and other disgusting behaviors!


And Ron Paul has racist articles in his newsletters...regardless if they were written by him or not...they were in HIS newsletter.

And this happened when Ron was an ADULT...and he profited off of them...not as a kid in school...I really don't think you want to start slinging that dirt.



posted on May, 11 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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EVERY person has dirt. Ron Paul is a product of his generation, and as such, has a bit of an aged view on topics like abortion and race relations. In the outlook of the future of our nation, those are relatively trifling issues, when compared to rampant spending, racking up debt, fighting wars for no gain, and massive unemployment.

THESE are the issues I'm looking at for my choice for the next President.

Romney's a crook, through and through (a fact I'm sure we'll see even more born out as this election progresses). But it won't matter, as the GOP is already too invested in him to change horses now anyhow.

Obama's a do nothing President who has yet to follow through on his promises. (and don't even mention Bin Laden, as that whole affair stinks to high heaven...dead, but no body to show? Really?).

Once elected, he'll coast for another 4 years as we all try to continue fixing the economy through Congress, without his involvement. Meanwhile, we'll still maintain our troop presence abroad for no gain, racking up even more billions/trillions in debt, while the Chinese start buying up all of our banking institutions in addition to property and businesses.

And if we elect either (which we will of course) without other candidates showing enough of a percentage, we'll simply send the message that we, the American public, are still drinking the government Kool-Aid and think we have a voice.



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