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Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by jjf3rd77
I take it you are trying to sell everyone on golden boy Romney then? Grew up with no issues and tons of money that kept rolling in.....How is he supposed to deal with any problems with America?? Oh yeah...He WON'T!!
Then you have a Dr. who has 30+ years of good standing toward voting on the bills for the benefit of the people.....One of the only candidates in the history of the U.S.A. that is honest proven, and can't be bought with any amount of money....Yet you argue that the best shot America has to get back on the right track...Why??
You are trying to get answers to a couple different things you don't agree on, and that is enough to try and talk people out of voting for the BEST candidate??
Good luck selling people on not voting for Paul because of 2 or 3 things he believes in that you don't!!
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Damrod
reply to post by jjf3rd77
What?...are you candy or what?...."I'm afraid to face the facts"...."My candidate is a jerk-off"....
stop it dude....your dude is a douche-bag....at least RP is real....even more real than Obama...but you are too blind and hard headed to realize that Romney is just a pale skinned version of Obama aren't you....are you scared of the racist card?....I'm not...why?...because it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with right and wrong...and your criminal candidate is wrong and cannot nor will not win....suck it up and realize the fail.....RP is right....if your guy wins...we all fail...for the next seveal years....wake up idjet....get someone who is at least going to start change...your dude is going to perpetuate stupidity and make us all hurt more.....
edit on 5/10/2012 by Damrod because: (no reason given)
What happened to civil discussion??? You started out well and your posts have lacked substance since then, just telling me that Romney is bad and Ron Paul is good and right is not going to stop me from questioning him! Give up your postings if you don't have anything substantial to add. Thank you!
Originally posted by eazyriderl_l
I'll try to tackle the fed issue. He wants the congress to do its job and regulate and valuate the currency of our country (Article 1, section 8 of the constitution). If that doesn't work, take away the monopoly of coining the money supply. The debt racked up through the declaring of the fed unconstitutional and criminal will force it null and void so there is a big chunk of change in the american coffers. Everyone but the fed institution survives just fine.
If the above is not valid enough or too impossible- just taking it out of the feds hands solely and allow others to coin the money as well will force fiscal disclosure (which the fed has none of now) so those really charged with our nations finances will be able to do a better job for the people (hopefully), than for the few corporations that the banks have installed on the fed reserve board.
Answered!
P.S. Dont vote for anyone you dont agree withedit on 10-5-2012 by eazyriderl_l because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Damrod
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Damrod
reply to post by jjf3rd77
What?...are you candy or what?...."I'm afraid to face the facts"...."My candidate is a jerk-off"....
stop it dude....your dude is a douche-bag....at least RP is real....even more real than Obama...but you are too blind and hard headed to realize that Romney is just a pale skinned version of Obama aren't you....are you scared of the racist card?....I'm not...why?...because it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with right and wrong...and your criminal candidate is wrong and cannot nor will not win....suck it up and realize the fail.....RP is right....if your guy wins...we all fail...for the next seveal years....wake up idjet....get someone who is at least going to start change...your dude is going to perpetuate stupidity and make us all hurt more.....
edit on 5/10/2012 by Damrod because: (no reason given)
What happened to civil discussion??? You started out well and your posts have lacked substance since then, just telling me that Romney is bad and Ron Paul is good and right is not going to stop me from questioning him! Give up your postings if you don't have anything substantial to add. Thank you!
Oh man...just stop for a minute. Your man...wants to tel people what to do and how to live...how is that freedom? Ron at least wants to turn a lot of these decisions over to the states...as should be. I don't get it....how can you call yourself a conservative when you want to be up and in everyone's business?...that is NOT conservatism...that is Christian coalition/moral majority crap....that is not "Liberty'.
this is why the Republicans are failing and will eventually disappear...they are living in a flux...a duo world where there own words defy themselves.....you cannot have it both ways. Do you respect the rights of the LGBT community?...or do you think you have the right to dictate to them? I think I know that answer but I will spare you the indignity of having to say so....true "conservatism" says "stay out of the bedroom"....this is universal...the "Pat Robertson" conservatives need to follow the Jim Jones example and remove themselves from the real world...they are an unwanted burden of antiquated beliefs and witchcraft....they are liars and false prophets....they need to bow out and no longer burden the real world with their ignorance and lies....
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Damrod
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Damrod
reply to post by jjf3rd77
What?...are you candy or what?...."I'm afraid to face the facts"...."My candidate is a jerk-off"....
stop it dude....your dude is a douche-bag....at least RP is real....even more real than Obama...but you are too blind and hard headed to realize that Romney is just a pale skinned version of Obama aren't you....are you scared of the racist card?....I'm not...why?...because it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with right and wrong...and your criminal candidate is wrong and cannot nor will not win....suck it up and realize the fail.....RP is right....if your guy wins...we all fail...for the next seveal years....wake up idjet....get someone who is at least going to start change...your dude is going to perpetuate stupidity and make us all hurt more.....
edit on 5/10/2012 by Damrod because: (no reason given)
What happened to civil discussion??? You started out well and your posts have lacked substance since then, just telling me that Romney is bad and Ron Paul is good and right is not going to stop me from questioning him! Give up your postings if you don't have anything substantial to add. Thank you!
Oh man...just stop for a minute. Your man...wants to tell people what to do and how to live...how is that freedom? Ron at least wants to turn a lot of these decisions over to the states...as should be. I don't get it....how can you call yourself a conservative when you want to be up and in everyone's business?...that is NOT conservatism...that is Christian coalition/moral majority crap....that is not "Liberty'.
This is why the Republicans are failing and will eventually disappear...they are living in a flux...a duo world where there own words defy themselves.....you cannot have it both ways. Do you respect the rights of the LGBT community?...or do you think you have the right to dictate to them? I think I know that answer but I will spare you the indignity of having to say so....true "conservatism" says "stay out of the bedroom"....this is universal...the "Pat Robertson" conservatives need to follow the Jim Jones example and remove themselves from the real world...they are an unwanted burden of antiquated beliefs and witchcraft....they are liars and false prophets....they need to bow out and no longer burden the real world with their ignorance and lies....
Until you have something constructive to say about my questions or my posts, please stop telling me how wrong I am or that I am voting for the wrong person. I've made up my mind and your not going to change it. There are unanswered questions about Ron Paul that I am very uncomfortable with....What's wrong with that?:
edit on 10-5-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Damrod
Not a thing...and that is fair. I will not ask you to explain your position on human rights or women's rights...basically because your candidate has spoken for you. I would ask you to explain how dictating behavior has ever worked out in the past?.....give me one example where totalitarianism of personal views has ever ended in success....I doubt you can give me one...
Originally posted by netwarrior
Reply to post by Holodomor
So was Mein Kampf. Doesnt make it right.
Seriously, if Ron Paul is a wolf disguised as a shepherd, it would mean he pulled off a 30 year con. It takes a special kind of sociopath to pull off that kind of consistency in lying over the long term and i doubt the Doctor is capable of that.
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Damrod
Not a thing...and that is fair. I will not ask you to explain your position on human rights or women's rights...basically because your candidate has spoken for you. I would ask you to explain how dictating behavior has ever worked out in the past?.....give me one example where totalitarianism of personal views has ever ended in success....I doubt you can give me one...
Exactly dictating behavior has and will never work. Totalitarianism doesn't work! So, executive orders from Ron Paul about how to live life and how money should be controlled, will not work. I guess you answered your own questions there.
Not sure about the rest. seemed like rambling to me.
Originally posted by gwydionblack
LOL
We don't have to. Ron Paul already did it for us.
Restore America Plan
He already has $1 trillion in cuts made so, were good there. Bring the troops home and end the war, that is another $1 trillion + spent each year as of the current figures.
That puts us in the plus. Wasn't too hard, now was it?
Originally posted by eazyriderl_l
First lets us start and keep with the fed for a moment. He can push for a case of unconstitutionality against the federal reserve act similar to the obamacare case now. Then depending how that goes depends on the actions he will have to take. I am not sure if executive orders (E.O.)are in place other than kennedy's 11110 which strips the feds' power to lend money with interest to the us gov, but starting to enforce that would be a good start. I know you seem not to be a fan of E.O.s but they are there and all presidents have used them, so he could go that route.
Audit the fed (which he is pushing for) and see where the money is going and at what interest rate and you would probably see a swell of rage against them and that is why I believe they fight so hard against it.
There is 4 viable answers to the fed reserve to continue our discourse... Answered?
Originally posted by Damrod
You guys fail masively...go ahead...remove my posts....ban me...I'll be back from a new isp..i have about 14 different email adddresses and I will be back with a new IP...and I will record every stinking fact and will draw you into litigation until you are broke and no longer have the money to finance this farce.....how's that?....drop my charges...drop my points...or else....and I mean that.....edit on 5/10/2012 by Damrod because: (no reason given)