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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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There is another thread about dead birds (Chile). I already posted vital info there. Seems I have to work double again an transfer all that info, since mods decided to close it. Will Update asap. Please read it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I started to sense a possible conspiracy. All these pelicans and dolphins have no commercial value, killing them will assure an overpopulation of "anchoveta" (peruvian anchovy), which is the most important fish in Peru, used almost entirely to produce fish meal and oil for export. About 90% of it is exported, tax free.

www.siicex.gob.pe...

Also, the anchoveta is the main food of other commercially important species such as bass, tuna and mackerel. These species have equal importance in Chile.

Just think about it.

UPDATE :

About the advantages of an anchoveta overpopulation :



The ever-growing demand for fish and fish oil due to their omega-3 fatty acids has led to exponential growth in the aquaculture industry—and depletion of the world's oceans. While aquaculture is farmed fish, the fish are fed with wild marine species.

In a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences researchers announced that from 1995 to 2007 global production of farmed fish nearly tripled. This year the industry is set to reach a new landmark: aquaculture will account for 50 percent of the fish consumed globally...


www.oceansentry.org...

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UPDATE :

About fish oil, here some vital info, please read. Seems all these was previously calculated. Even if the article mostly mentions Peru, the info is absolutely valid for Chile, as you will see.



Fish oil prices move up again

World fish oil production is declining despite higher Peruvian production. Prices increased in the course of 2009, but without reaching the peaks of mid 2008. Demand for fish oil is strong on the world market, and further price increases are likely in coming months.


Following "El Niño" is now a key for good investments.



The Peruvian industry is expecting an El Niño year in 2010, which will lead to lower fish oil outputs. Production is also forecast to decline in other producing countries, which will lead to a supply shortage. On the contrary, demand continues to be strong and thus prices are likely to move up even further.


Finally, here some charts about fish oil exports in both countries, Chile and Peru :





www.globefish.org...

Again....think about it.
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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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I hope somebody here reads all this info. THIS IS WHY THE PELICANS ARE DYING :

"Pelicans without food: 7 million tons of anchovy were caught for fishmeal in 2011"


their deaths are due to the lack of one of its main foods such as the anchovy, which has moved south or is warming further by the sea. Upon the death of 877 dolphins, although they can not pinpoint.


There is more :


Moreover, although not expressly say so, is that this is due to efficiencies in government management of the industrial fishery for anchovy fish meal and oil. A fishing sector level, this question relocate IMARPE reports that serve for the Ministry of Production (PRODUCE), state agency administrator fishing sector, set the overall share of anchovy catch for the production of fishmeal that is exported as raw material in large part, for use in feed in the rearing of pigs, cows, chickens, and tilapia, mainly from countries like China. Also, the need for international audit IMARPE Declaring the government of President Humala


More dead pelicans are expected in the next months, they destroyed the ecosystem.

www.pescaartesanalnoticias.com...
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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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You asked for stats...

www.indexmundi.com...

Roughly 5.8 deaths per 1000.

www.tradingeconomics.com...

29.8 million

29,800,000 divided by 0.005 divided by 365 days a year is 408.22 deaths per day in Peru.

OH! Here...

m.cnbc.com...

This is a link describing g conflicts with lots of violent deaths associated with drug wars in all borders of Peru....I realise Dolphin don't normally mule for cartels. You asked for an increase in death of the HUMAN population-I gave you one.



posted on May, 12 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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reply to post by Trueman
 

7...AHEM...MILLION...(cough choke) T O N S?! From one area?? Oh good lord. I see your point and I'm speechless. As much as I've sat here shaking my head at U.S.. Fish and Game decisions on seasons and quota limits, your data sure makes the case for why it's so necessary. Left to their own devices and honor limits, the only limit becomes the point where nets are empty and everything is gone in SOME places anyway. (I really can't believe some of the fishermen I've heard talk on the subject in the U.S. Crab and Sword fleets would do this...run a fishing ground to collapse...but??)

Thanks for the info. I've got something to look into now and a use for my handy dandy translator software. I wish I wasn't translating more doom with it, but...I'd rather know than not know.


Added:

Here is an English resource for this. It may sound like just another thing to jump up and down about, but the issue seems real enough. The largest fleet in the world, built to exploit a single species and they total 3 times the number needed to fish the stocks to the limits. It's not a fleet to fish the anchovys, it's a fleet to obliterate them.


English Language information
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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 07:13 PM
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reply to post by Wrabbit2000
 


Thanks, you got that right. They destroyed the whole ecosystem and now they wonder what's going on. What an hipocrisy right?

I think the link you provided is not working, please try to fix it. We must make a good use of ATS and spread the truth.
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posted on May, 12 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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Yikes... I don't know what happened to that link. Everything from that site is now showing the same error. Google index hits too.
It's beyond edit time too. Well, never fear, the bunny is here! I found a replacement that is far better than the first. The original site was a news story. This is more a technical paper explaining the nuts and bolts of the issues involved and various aspects. The end result isn't changed by much, although the tone is softer on the doom aspect. The numbers....don't appreciably change though. The outcome then, is likely the same. Ouch!


The Peruvian government has taken measures to ensure that the anchovy is fished at sustainable levels. Studies indicate that the maximum sustainable harvest is 9.5 million metric tons per year which is only one fifth of the industries capacity.



Rather than limiting the allowable catch for each vessel the Peruvian government opted to regulate other aspects of the industry to keep the annual catch at a sustainable level. The work week has been limited to just five days while the season has been limited to a fraction of the year in order to keep harvests down.



The over capacity found in the Peruvian fishing fleet is mirrored by the overcapacity in the fish reduction factories. It is in these factories where the raw material of anchovies is processed into the tradable commodities of fishmeal and fish oil. These plants have the capacity to process 56 million metric tons of fish per year, while the government's estimates of the maximum sustainable yield is 9.5 million metric tons(9).
Source

It's important to note that the document here is an overview and summary of the situation and factors for the Peruvian fishing stocks and Anchovy in particular. As such, it's drawing from data points over a range of years and not specific to the crisis happening today. It would seem to explain the origins and depth of the crisis they face now though.

Hope that helps!



posted on May, 12 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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Thanks for that input, those scary numbers are now confirmed by your post. According to me, this is conclusive evidence. I don't believe there is a better explanation for these events.

I just hope this thread won't finish buried and forgotten.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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I wonder if this is the reason for the mass deaths at least it seems plauseable
www.digitaljournal.com...



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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Of course even if my above post is true for the Dolphin deaths I cant see how this could kill the birds
I wish there was a realy understandable reason, for now it would make the most sense to me that these poor birds may well have starved to death



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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***Update***


'Natural causes' blamed for Peru dolphin deaths




Nearly 900 dolphins that washed up along Peru's northern coast since the start of the year died of natural causes, a top official said Tuesday, citing a government report.


Source


You gotta love government reports...



Oil & Drilling? Nope.

Offshore Oil Exploration? Nope.

Starved? Nope.

Viral Infection? Nope.

Bacterial Infection? Nope.

Trauma? Nope.

Rising Sea Temperatures? Nope.


Natural Causes? Yep.



It's written "Stupid" all over our foreheads.


Hey, Gladys...



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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reply to post by SonoftheSun
 


I was expecting that from the government. They are responsable for this.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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reply to post by Trueman
 


Sad, isn't it? They will never admit responsibility. Natural causes. My grandmother died of natural causes. It does happen. One penguin, perhaps. Two penguins, maybe. Three penguins becomes doubtful. 900........

It would have been better if they kept their mouths shut instead of pushing outright lies.

Sickening when you really think of it.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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I didn't have a chance to add the last info I found while digging a bit deeper. In advance, I can tell you there are actually 2 oil companies, not one as we thought first, working in the coast of Peru. The local government made the deal about 2010 already. Since that time, locals were protesting but the media didn't covered properly. I promise to update this post asap. (I'm late to work).



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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I guess they just aren't interested to investigate and i don't blame them. The earth is still spinning, everything is still working, so who gives a # about some birds and dolphins. If Humans would suddenly drop dead, that would concern me. But dolphins?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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This is something that had been happening for years, local fishermen were the first to put the alert about the consequences of the oil companies activities in the coast of Peru. I’ll use the company mentioned below as an example, but I believe there are many more.

(translation)

Friday 29 may 2009

SECHURA. The shellfish fishermen of the province of Sechura yesterday showed their opposition to oil concessions authorized Bayovar area, and both have said they will not "social license to any company Petro-Tech for their exploitation." This feeling was made public yesterday at a desk, installed at the headquarters of the Regional Government.


sechura-noticias.over-blog.com...

Now lets see who really is Petro- Tech and what they‘ve been doing since 2009 :

(Translation)

KNOC and Ecopetrol acquired Offshore International Group (OIG) on February 9, 2009. Korea National Oil Corp. (Knoc) and Ecopetrol have acquired Offshore International Group for $ 900 million (50% Ecopetrol and 50% Knoc).
The National Oil Company of Korea and the Colombian Petroleum Company have bet their cards in Peru because they believe that future earnings will gain by buying OIG.

OIG's main asset is Petro-Tech, a company focused on exploration, development, production of oil and gas processing activities in Peru.

A few months ago U.S. oil company Petro-Tech Petro Peru paid compensation of $ 16.2 million for a violation of the contract that allows you to exploit the Block Z-2B, located off the coast of Talara, Piura.


polidrez.blogspot.com...

Ok, now we know it’s a Korean company with a background . Now, after a few years :


President returns to Lima on Sunday.

Ollanta Humala today traveled to the South Korean city of Yeosu to attend the opening of the International Exhibition which starts tomorrow, Saturday, with the conservation of oceans and coasts as a central theme.

The Peruvian head of state also met with local reporters in Seoul, to those who expressed interest in Peru for the purchase of 20 military training aircraft KT-1 South Korea, which is still under negotiation and expected conclude soon.


www.larepublica.pe...

Now pay attention to the following explanation, this is how they find the oil in the seabed :

(Translation)

If the exploitation of oil generates harmful environmental impacts, before the extraction of the first jet of oil to the seabed, the technologies used to explore for black gold cause a severe impact on marine biodiversity. This technology involves using sound waves strike the seabed, through the use of compressed air guns, the famous "air-guns." This will scan the seabed to determine the presence of ancient rock formations that hold oil deposits in the seabed.


It’s not only about the technology used, is how much they use it (I was speechless when I read this part) :

(Translation)

The massive bombing (called exploration 2D and 3D) of the seabed includes the execution of explosive shock every 10 seconds for 24 hours at least for 6 months. This means only to the central coast (from Callao to Pisco) 77.167 downloads for scans two-dimensional explosive and explosive 288.000 downloads for the three-dimensional seismic acquisition. To the north of the country, only 3D scans cover almost 1.5 million explosions.

One minute of exposure to sound in the environment of 130 decibels causes permanent hearing loss in humans. Each of the thousands of downloads seismic under the project will cause underwater noise of 208 decibels, ie, 100,000 times the level of noise produced by the permanent loss of hearing in humans.


To put a cherry on top of that :

(Translation)


Environmental impact studies conducted by Walsh Peru SA company, SRL Geolab and Knight & Piesold deny that everything stated is a problem. Walsh says: "The potential loss of individuals of species (fish) is considered of little direct significance and low probability of occurrence." According to Walsh "Most marine mammals have considerable tolerance to noise generated by ships." And again, Walsh said: "The temporary removal of some individuals of species occurrence is considered inevitable, direct and very significant


The last 3 blocks were extracted from this link (I strongly recommend to translate the rest) :

rodolfoybarra.blogspot.com...
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:05 PM
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reply to post by Wrabbit2000
 


Good point groups like WWF are crazy and will do anything for the cause, But still all these dieoffs in recent history has me a little worried.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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reply to post by Hithe Merinos
 


Hmm.. last week this was listed as a result of percussive syndrome as scientific tests show damage to dolphin and bird ear drums and bones...and no ebil bacteria or disease was found in any animal.

Now its 'warm water' ....?


cough..pin drop.



Ro



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Guess we can add prawns to the list of dead animals on Peru's beaches.


google translate


The Instituto del Mar del Peru (IMARPE) investigate the causes for the occurrence of dead shrimp on the beach Pucusana.


peru.com...



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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reply to post by Trueman
 


Here is another interesting article to read...possible cover up?


The Peru government claims 900 while a lead researcher in Peru believes there are 3,000 dead dolphins, according to marine biologist Sue Rocca during a CNN interview.


Source




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Good I hate dolphins.

OT: I'm no marine biologist but warming waters sounds like poppy cock. In less the ocean was boiling that day I don't see how that could have killed them off. Though those hippies do keep going on about how fragile the eco-system is and if the oceans off a degree then 900 dolphins drop dead apparently.





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