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A senior Obama administration official defended the efficacy of “class warfare” on his personal blog Monday by quoting the political philosopher and communist theorist Karl Marx.
Rick Bookstaber, who currently serves on the Financial Stability Oversight Council, the federal body established under the Dodd-Frank Act to “ensure the stability of our nation’s financial system,” took issue with conservative commentator Tucker Carlson’s accusations that liberals were engaging in “class warfare” by seeking to blame the nation’s fiscal problems on a small number of wealthy individuals.
“There is little that matches the artfulness of the rich in waving off criticism of the widening income gap as ‘class warfare,’” Bookstaber wrote. “And there is little that matches the gullibility of the rest in following along.”
“I am not picking sides in this war,” he added, “but I believe such a war is justifiable, and indeed ultimately inevitable.”
Bookstaber explained further, citing Marx:
During the industrial revolution class warfare centered on the length of the working day. A tightly defined working day only appeared with the advent of the industrial revolution. Before then laborers worked when they needed money, and then quit for a time once they fulfilled their needs. But regimentation and a dependable workforce became necessary once there was machinery to run and capital invested, and so with industrialization came the an enforced workday. So it is not surprising that Marx stated the central battle of class warfare at the time in terms of the working day:
The capitalist maintains his rights as a purchaser when he tries to make the working-day as long as possible, and to make, whenever possible, two working-days out of one. On the other hand, the peculiar nature of the commodity sold implies a limit to its consumption by the purchaser, and the laborer maintains his right as seller when he wishes to reduce the working-day to one of definite normal duration. There is here, therefore, an antinomy, right against right, both equally bearing the seal of the law of exchanges. Between equal rights force decides. Hence is it that in the history of capitalist production, the determination of what is a working-day, presents itself as the result of a struggle, a struggle between collective capital, i.e., the class of capitalists, and collective labour, i.e., the working-class. – Marx, Das Kapital
Marx’s work was widely appropriated throughout the 20th century by countries such as China and the former Soviet Union. Tens of millions of people were slaughtered under those regimes.
“There is little that matches the artfulness of the rich in waving off criticism of the widening income gap as ‘class warfare,’” Bookstaber wrote. “And there is little that matches the gullibility of the rest in following along.”
Originally posted by Germanicus
What are you trying to say? That if a guy quotes Marx he is a commie? That seems pretty alarmist and McCarthyist.
Are you trying to say that Democrats are commies?
Originally posted by xuenchen
Originally posted by Germanicus
What are you trying to say? That if a guy quotes Marx he is a commie? That seems pretty alarmist and McCarthyist.
Are you trying to say that Democrats are commies?
It seems to me that the gentleman is speaking quite clearly for himself.
read his entire blog link. He wrote it !!
he has some very interesting views.
edit on May-09-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)
“if you want to shine like sun first you have to burn like it.” - Adolf Hitler
Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by xuenchen
First Anita Dunn and her affinity for Mao, then Van Jones and now this. Is it any wonder why people doubt Obama and his motivations? I'll throw Sunstein in their somewhere in the middle too!
Birds of of a feather flock together...
We recommended volumes to each other (for example, he encouraged me to read a Mao biography
We recommended volumes to each other (for example, he encouraged me to read a Mao biography; I suggested a book on Reconstruction's unhappy end). We discussed the books and wrote thank-you notes to some authors.
Mr. Bush's 2006 reading list shows his literary tastes. The nonfiction ran from biographies of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Carnegie, Mark Twain, Babe Ruth, King Leopold, William Jennings Bryan, Huey Long, LBJ and Genghis Khan to Andrew Roberts's "A History of the English Speaking Peoples Since 1900," James L. Swanson's "Manhunt," and Nathaniel Philbrick's "Mayflower." Besides eight Travis McGee novels by John D. MacDonald, Mr. Bush tackled Michael Crichton's "Next," Vince Flynn's "Executive Power," Stephen Hunter's "Point of Impact," and Albert Camus's "The Stranger," among others.
Originally posted by jibeho
Reading a Bio vs citing Mao as your favorite philosopher are two different things. I read Obama's "Dreams..." but he is certainly not one of my favorite Presidents. I've also read Mien Kampf but Hitler is not one of my favorite dictators or authors. It was an interesting history lesson.
Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Indigo5
He quoted Marx to justify class warfare that has been instigated on this nation since January of 2009.
It is hard to discuss class warfare without referring back to the industrial revolution. Then class warfare centered on the length of the working day.
Originally posted by jibeho
"“I am not picking sides in this war,” he added, “but I believe such a war is justifiable, and indeed ultimately inevitable.”
There is little that matches the artfulness in waving off criticism of the widening income gap as “class warfare”.
And there is little that matches the gullibility of those who follow along.
There seems to be agreement all around that action to change the situation, for the poor to improve their lot at the expense of the rich, is an affront to civil society.
I am not picking sides in this, but I believe such a "war" can be justified, and indeed ultimately is inevitable.
The introduction of class warfare marks a radical departure from the tenets of contemporary economics because as far as economics goes, the terms “class”, “warfare”, and “struggle” are, well, radicalized.
Yet there has been an epic, historical struggle over the length of the working day writ large, extending to issues like retirement, the definition of the time worked, and the share of economic rents, and this is the struggle that is still with us. Clearly fundamental to our economic history and our capitalist system, this is ignored in our economic studies.
Even admitting to the term “class warfare” concedes a lot.
To warn against class warfare only makes sense if there are classes, and more than that, if there might be a reason to be answered for one of the classes to do battle.
(For otherwise there is the simpler course of pointing out that no differences exist).
There is only so much to go around, and the efforts of one group or the other to assert a claim to a larger share can be called class warfare.
It can be a war waged through changes in the taxes, in a restructuring of incentives and pay scales, an increase in the benefits given to the poor, or revolt.
The first three are legitimate battlegrounds in a democratic society such as ours, and it is really taking a good joke to far to suggest it is damaging to the body politic for members of society to look at the differences in income and take action to redistribute in their direction.
Rick BookstaberMay 8, 2012 7:12 AM
I have received a number of comments that are diatribes and I will not be publishing them. Some are offended by this post and view it as being "communist propaganda" because it includes a quote from Marx. It is natural to refer to Marx when speaking of the industrial revolution. Marx was a notable, even preeminent, social philosopher of that time.