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Originally posted by King Loki
I also wrote a thread about this ages ago when we used to have the old "alt substances" forums here .... ill repost it in here
I see a lot of people on these forums talking about being abducted by aliens and such, but most of you do not understand what is actually happening when you think you are being physically abducted, the real truth is that physically your still in your bed fast asleep. I will explain more below:
But they do have "a tendency to fantasize and to hold unusual beliefs and ideas. They believe not only in alien abductions, but also in things like UFOs, ESP, astrology, tarot, channeling, auras, and crystal therapy. They also have in common a rash of disturbing experiences for which they are seeking an explanation. For them, alien abduction is the best fit."
Nineteen former pilots and government officials have asked the United States to intensify investigations of unidentified flying objects, calling the reports a national security concern that shouldn’t be casually dismissed.
The group is hard to dismiss as a bunch of stereotypical UFO crackpots. Many of them are ex-military; several claim to have personally encountered UFOs.
Fife Symington, an ex-air force pilot and former Arizona goveror who claims to have seen a UFO in 1997, told Agence-France Press that "We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that all UFOs can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms."
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by Unity_99
So you have sunk to the level of using the Holy Grail of excuses. We don't have proof because they are hiding it or they will kill those that attempt to show us proof....
Isn't it weird that the government has not killed anyone in order to hide proof , has blocked YouTube from broadcasting supposed UFO vids, has shut down websites in order to suppress anything or has actually done anything to stop the spread of these stories?
I am telling you the government has done a horrible job in hiding things from the public...
What if the alien encounter phenomenon were subtle in the sense that it may manifest in the physical world but derives from a source which by its very nature could not provide the kind of hard evidence that would satisfy skeptics for whom reality is limited to the material? What if we were to acknowledge that the phenomenon is beyond our present framework of knowledge? Dr John Mack-MD.
Investigation In May 1994, the Dean of Harvard Medical School, Daniel C. Tosteson, appointed a committee of peers to confidentially review Mack's clinical care and clinical investigation of the people who had shared their alien encounters with him (some of their cases were written of in Mack's 1994 book Abduction). In the same BBC article cited above, Angela Hind wrote, "It was the first time in Harvard's history that a tenured professor was subjected to such an investigation." Mack described the investigation as "Kafkaesque": he never quite knew the status of the ongoing investigation, and the nature of his critics' complaints were not revealed to Mack until the committee had prepared a draft report eight months into the process.
Because the committee was not a disciplinary committee, it was not governed by any established rules of procedure; the presentation of a defense was therefore difficult and costly for Mack. Upon the public revelation of the existence of the committee (inadvertently revealed during the solicitation of witnesses for Mack's defense, ten months into the process), questions arose from the academic community (including Harvard Professor of Law Alan Dershowitz) regarding the validity of an investigation of a tenured professor who was not suspected of ethics violations or professional misconduct. Concluding the fourteen-month investigation, Harvard then issued a statement stating that the Dean had "reaffirmed Dr. Mack's academic freedom to study what he wishes and to state his opinions without impediment," concluding "Dr. Mack remains a member in good standing of the Harvard Faculty of Medicine." (Mack was censured in the committee's report for what they believed were methodological errors, but Dean Tosteson took no action based on the committee's assessment.)
He had received legal help from Roderick MacLeish and Daniel P. Sheehan, (of the Pentagon Papers case) and the support of Laurance Rockefeller, who also funded Mack's non-profit organization for four consecutive years at $250,000 per year
Originally posted by NotReallyASecret
The scientists are almost right.
But the problem is that these are astral encounters with nonphysical astral beings.
So instead of lucid dream, I would say OBE/astral projection.
Originally posted by Goosegash
not sure the Hills would've agreed they were sharing the same dream,