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Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by kaylaluv
I can explain it very simply. 1. Were flawed and therefore not perfect so it would be impossible to follow all the laws in the bible. Hence the reason for Jesus. 2. The Old Testament seems to get glossed over in church in favor of the New Testament therefore an ignorance of the Old Testament rules exists. 3. Some christians believe that when Jesus came back he abolished the rules of the Old Testament, and the New Testament is the only way to live.
I don't imagine you follow every law that the government has in place every second of your life so don't expect Christians to do the same with their rules because it's impossible. I'm sorry if some christians act as if they're on a pedestal but that isn't the right way to live either. We are all equal under the lord for we all sin.
Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by Garfee
You are missing the point that my faith guides me, and I don't feel like I am discriminating one bit. The rules are the rules of God, you may not believe but that is your choice and your choice alone. I will sleep just fine tonight.
Originally posted by kaylaluv
# 1 is a pitiful argument. If it's impossible to follow all the laws of the Bible, then why discriminate against homosexuals for "supposedly" not following the laws?
This is the only issue at hand, this bill was about homosexuality. The bill was not about any other rule in the bible therefore Christians are acting in their faith to reject sin. Homosexuality in the bible is a sin therefore to Christians it is not discrimination. It is impossible to follow every law in the bible, but opportunity was presented to possibly stop sin therefore people voted for the bill.
#2 Gee, it's funny how fundamentalist Christians seem to not be ignorant of the homosexual part of the Old Testament.
Homosexual rights and marriage rights are a hot button issue today, and are talked about on the news nearly everyday. What do you expect when something has so much airtime, of course people will aware of the rule in the bible. If we started talking about bills against tattoos you would see the same rise in knowledge of it.
#3 - now, this is something I could agree with. In one of my previous posts, I refer to an article which states that Jesus is only concerned with the laws that govern how we treat each other. He never says that homosexuality is a sin. He never says it's a sin to wear tattoos or clothing with two fabrics, or to have sex with menstruating women. He emphasizes the Golden Rule - love your neighbor as yourself. That's what the New Testament is all about, and that is all we have to do. We are going against Jesus' teachings by denying the rights of two people to be married in a loving, committed relationship. That is not a good way to treat others.
However, Jesus did not abolish any rule his father wrote, he only took the punishment for the laws. Instead of being sent to Hell for sins now we have Jesus who died for us. Yes he did preach of love, but never did he say it was okay to sin out of love for one another. By denying homosexuality we are following his father's rules and jesus' love each other rule. If you love someone them you will tell them of their sin, and warn them to turn away from their sin. Jesus never found complacency with our sin, he forgives us for our sin but that doesn't mean we get to sin willy nilly.
Originally posted by denynothing
This is the only issue at hand, this bill was about homosexuality. The bill was not about any other rule in the bible therefore Christians are acting in their faith to reject sin. Homosexuality in the bible is a sin therefore to Christians it is not discrimination. It is impossible to follow every law in the bible, but opportunity was presented to possibly stop sin therefore people voted for the bill.
Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by Annee
I don't live in fear, the Lord takes care of all my worries.
Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by kaylaluv
Are you really doing this out of love or out of sarcastic mocking?
Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by kaylaluv
Are you really doing this out of love or out of sarcastic mocking?
Originally posted by denynothing
reply to post by Garfee
You don't have to like me, I am personally okay with that. However this is meant to be a debate and not the place to insult based upon beliefs. Describe me how you will that is your choice to do. Your thoughts of me do not affect me one bit, I however still respect you as an equal.
If you suppose I don't know any better then enlighten me, don't belittle me and then refuse to explain why.
Originally posted by denynothing
I actually didn't sleep fine last night, I too question whether it is right to tell the gays they can't get married because I can't get married. But I believe that bible says its wrong, I feel bad for the gays to be not be able to get married and what not. However we all reap what we sow with our choices.