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Originally posted by Radiobuzz
I'm not from the US and I think this is insane. Not only for denying the LGTB community of their basic rights but also because now 'marriage' is the only legal domestic union valid on NC, and hence everyone, including straight people, will be affected by this.
I'm sorry if it offends any US citizen but it seems to me that it's a huge distortion of democracy when a majority choses if a minority will have basic rights or not. Democracy should actually protect any minority because the sum of all minorities is what makes a population, so it's a huge hit to the system when any group get its liberties taken away. It's a sadden news and I don't think you have to be gay to understand how bad this is.
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
Oh like how liberals stick their hands in my wallet and pay for some strangers birth control pills?
Nope describe yourself.
Originally posted by KillThePoor
And when state's decide to step on the constitutional rights of others, that is one instance when the federal government is to step in, no? Yes, rights for one group apply to all otherwise all men are not equal. Marriage is not protected by the constitution but equal rights are.
P.S. I think I proved this law and amendment banning gay marriage is 100% unconstitutional in the sense that rights given to one group should be given to all groups.
You could eliminate the legal status of marriage for straight people and then the gay marriage debate would be over.
Yet America is a republic, not a democracy. Our Founding Fathers instituted a form of government guided by the rule of law rather than the desires of a majority of voters. They understood that a democracy is always in flux and given to “mob rule,” while a republic is fixed and stable, resting on “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” Because of the uncertainty of democracy, Benjamin Rush — a signer of the Declaration of Independence — wrote: “A simple democracy is one of the greatest of evils.”
Evidence exists that same-sex marriages were tolerated in parts of Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt. Artifacts from Egypt, for example, show that same-sex relationships not only existed, but the discovery of a pharaonic tomb for such a couple shows their union was recognized by the kingdom. Meanwhile, accounts of the Israelites' departure for Canaan include their condemnation of Egyptian acceptance of same-sex practice. In actuality, same-sex marital practices and rituals are less known in Egypt compared to Mesopotamia, where documents exist for a variety of marital practices, including male lovers of kings and polyandry. None of the recorded laws of Mesopotamia, including the Code of Hammurabi, contain restrictions against same-sex unions despite the fact that marriages are otherwise well regulated (Eskridge).....
Eastern religions varied in their attitude toward homosexuality, though they were frequently much more neutral than their Western counterparts. Less specific to same-sex marriage, many of the texts make a statement as to their position on homosexual behavior.
The sacred texts in the Hindu tradition, the Vedas, did not restrict homosexuality, but rather viewed it as a perversion. Mixed-race relationships were considerably more offensive in the early tradition. Japanese Buddhism records the most tolerant attitude toward homosexuality, in essence praising it for its mystery (Ishay). Today, there are no religious or political limitations on homosexual behavior in Japan. Sexuality remains a private matter among consenting adults, but there is not yet legal recognition of homosexual unions (McLelland).
Later Buddhist texts in Asia—including Tibet, China, and the Indian subcontinent—were likewise neutral on the subject.
Originally posted by jenlovesturtles
reply to post by grayghost
The bible has been rewritten so many times it just might have said Adam and Steve you can't be sure it didn't.
As far as the word marriage goes...I think if you want to call it marriage why the heck not! I didn't get married in a religious ceremony at a church and the word god was no where in my wedding vowels but I am still married so why can't gays? Its that same mentality my grandmom had when she told me I couldnt wear white to my wedding
I told her unless she was paying for it I would wear what I wanted and I wore white.
edit on 8-5-2012 by jenlovesturtles because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dthwraith
reply to post by Radiobuzz
Good for North Carolina! Now if all the other states would just follow their lead, the world would be a better place!