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So the consciousness of the world is my consciousness.
And you may not be directly responsible for certain acts of violence and war throughout history, that seems almost silly huh, yet you are responsible for the causes of violence and war in general, which is within us all.
Krishnamurti is simply saying, see that the entirety of consciousness is conflict (the "I" thought in conflict with all the other thoughts)
In terms of the sources of conflict, the processes of life with genetic competition have been going on since the first bacteria emerged. Competition is much older than humans and without it the Earth would look like the dry, lifeless, barren surface of the moon. Over the ages this continued struggle has lead to the strong, fit and capable bodies we have today. To realistically attempt to solve worldly problems it is important to recognise the importance that competition does play. If humans are to continue to evolve and become even stronger and more capable over future generations then competition does need to be supported and promoted. Where I have issue is with the more extreme version of competition which is conflict and the pain that results.
I am still trying to understand just what exactly is meant by this. If world conflict could be solved by a simple realisation then great, I want it. I expect that these global challenges are a bit more difficult to achieve though. I do know that for myself, a more peaceful state of being was achieved when I stopped being concerned with conflicting social values and focused more specifically on my own values.
"That means we are still keeping the outer and the inner as two separate movements. And I feel that is a totally wrong approach.
"So when one realizes that the world is me and I am the world, then my action is not separative, is not the individual opposed to the community; nor the importance of the individual and his salvation. When one realizes that the world is me and I am the world, then whatever action takes place, whatever change takes place, that will change the whole of the consciousness of man."
"if each one of us saw the truth of this, that the consciousness of the world is mine, and mine is the world's; and if each one of us felt the responsibility of that - the politician, the scientist, the engineer, the bureaucrat, the business man - if everybody felt that, what then? And it is our job to make them feel this; that is the function of the religious man, surely?
So then it is one movement. It is not an individual movement and his salvation. It is the salvation, if you like to use that word, of the whole of man's consciousness.
"Physical revolution is the most absurd, primitive, unintelligent destruction."
"But people will say, hearing what you have said, understanding it imperfectly, they will say: can that consciousness be emptied, and when that consciousness is emptied, supposing this were possible, doesn't that reduce one to a state of considerable vagueness and inertia?"
"Do we realize that the observer, seeing the content, examining, analysing, looking at it all, is the content itself? That the observer is the content?"
"I observe that redtailed hawk flying by. I see it. When I observe that bird, am I observing with the image I have about that bird, or am I merely observing? Is there only mere observation? If there is an image, which is words, memory and all the rest of it, then there is an observer watching the bird go by. If there is only observation, then there is no observer.
Otherwise there is freedom, freedom to observe. So radical revolution in consciousness, and of consciousness, takes place when there is no conflict at all.
Can we say that life itself IS conflict? Therefore conflict is us and we must accept it?
Now back to Alain's earlier quote, doesn't the absence of will "reduce one to a state of considerable vagueness and inertia?" What is there without will, desire, want, or choice? Not the superficial wants... but without want or will, how does anything get accomplished? Preparing a meal, reading a book, writing a letter, inventing free/clean energy, etc.?
I understand the infinite points of fragmentation within us and outside us... but I do not understand life without will, want, or desire. Is this something you may be able to help me understand? Even when I am utmostly aware and mindful, I am acting in accords to an earlier thought, want, or desire... which is in itself conflict.
When there is no conflict, meaning no will... wouldn't I just sit in one place until I die of starvation, dehydration, or nature?
Is it even applicably possible to be free of conflict and fragmentation, or is conflict and fragmentation what life and consciousness actually is?