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Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
This plane is 100% all fly-by-wire, right? What if they came up with a new UAV and it was just like the F-22 by design. Keep the plane and replace the pilot by a CPU. Cost effective, they're already built. Make up a cockamamie story about pilots not wanting to fly it due to safety issues. Put it out in the MSM and you have public approval. Then, *BAM* you have a whole new fleet of stealth UAV's.edit on 8-5-2012 by XLR8R because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by chevy369
This is what happens when the cheapest manufacture wins the contract.
Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
The life support system has been designed for over decades and refined and for them to get it wrong on the best fighter...does not make sense.
That's the first thing I thought too.
Can't they just pull one out of an F-18 or something?
“We have some recent data that we are starting to believe we are coming to closure on that root cause,” said Wolfenbarger during a May 8 Senate Armed Services Committee hearing. “We’re realizing that we operate this aircraft differently than we operate any of our other fighter aircraft, we fly at a higher altitude, we execute maneuvers that are high-G at that high altitude and we’re on that oxygen system at those high altitudes for periods of time.”
“I’m not ready to say yet that we’re ready to declare a root cause,” she added.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why don't military people actually whistleblow on things that actually matter?
Originally posted by Outofcontrol
reply to post by schuyler
yea... I can hear them already
"the plane is awesome, I just cant breathe inside it, which is a minor nuisance, other than that, awesome plane! It also drives like a 2 ton pickup. If we get them in a terrain like north korea, or iran's mountain range, the topography will make us fodder for 1981 mig 21s or a mirage f1 and they can pick us like cherries, other than that, awesome plane!"
useless piece of high tech junk...
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by jahn369
I'm having a hard time catching my breath..... I knew these were expensive, but... OMG.
(From OP link...Emphasis Mine)
Last week the Air Force officially received the last F-22 Raptor from defense contracting giant Lockheed Martin, completing an order of 187 planes that cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $79 billion -- meaning that including research, development and production among other costs, each plane has a price tag of more than $420 million. Despite being the most advanced fighters on the planet, none of the planes have been used on a combat mission since they went combat-ready in late 2005. Critics told ABC News that's because the jet was designed to fight rival, sophisticated fighters – an enemy that doesn't exist right now.
(cough cough) (choking)...does that say 420 MILLION U.S. Dollars PER PLANE? For Air Superiority Fighters?? A billion a copy for a B-2 Bomber makes sense if that cost is what makes it invisible to the systems it has to be. A front line fighter?? At almost half a billion? I really hope we never face an enemy that can shoot down an American F-22. We'll have a legitimate reason for a day of mourning on the Airplane alone, after the Pilot ejects and gets back safely. It's enough to go Half Staff if we lose a Pilot as well!