Originally posted by Deetermined
Sounds to me like God's going to set everyone straight on the fact that the "Lord" (God) in the Old Testament and the "Lord" (Jesus) in the New
Testament are one and the same and will be merged together once again when He comes to rule on the earth. So, God/Jesus will be LORD. No more
separating the two.
There's nothing in Revelation 11:15 that mentions that the Lord and his Christ are THEY, but HE.
These meanings become an issue because there were many things called god back in them days. One was the Humans playing god, like Nimrod and all
those before him. Egypt cloned Babylon's gods.
Then there is the god of Moses that is mixed up the Jethro's volcano linked magic from Midian.
Moses didn't speak very well and even his own followers didn't get his message and made the golden calf to get back to Babylon's games. Old ways die
hard and even Moses Exodus folks didn't get the new thinking.
Moses has the terrain and natural systems used to win freedom from the Egyptians, and that was an association with god. Moses has the magic Ark that
has a poison power like a volcanic release. And Moses has the Menorah that is supposed to be the upper meaning for what he was trying to get across
to the peoples. And even with the Commandements they still didn't get it. Moses had communication skill issues and this is why he took along Jetro
It isn't surprising that folks these days still don't get it, when they didn't get it right from Moses way back then. They even finially ran off
and left Moses in Midian and get back to the Israel terrories.
What Moses' monotheism was is the combined god exist under the common heading of the natural order and to understand that and a few other things in
the core of the mind was to know god. The ultimate symbol for that innner self core ultimate light knowledge symbol for god was the Menorah.
Moses god and Jesus god were one in the same, and the spiritual god existed in the mind and understanding of each. Neither were god, but got
resided within them via the mind's eye of the belief in monotheism's god. Neither could well explain god as there was no symbol possible to explain
god. The Natural Order existed and could well be seen, but never fully explained. The understand some of those natuiral order concepts was to
have god speaking to you knowledge of his ways. So, some of the ways or first symbols for god was the Mtn of Fire with Volcanic Rift effects, the
Ark that made use of toxic powers discovered from volcanos, and the better symbolic one of the Flame or Minorah. It is hard to separate clearly as
all the concepts overlap to an extent and only a thin line exists between the proper view and the improper.
So, in this theme there is no person or image that can be made for god, nor should one even attempt to do so. The best that could be done to explain
god in those times was allusion. Jesus could never become god or be called god, but the understand for god was within him and Jesus knew how to
teach the spirit for god.
And though Revelations doesn't explain that well enough either, so results the confisions on Jesus being god himself. Jesus never wanted to be god,
but he wanted heaven upon the earth and there resided god from the unified understanding in everyone's minds of what god was and was not.
Thus, Revelations and the Rapture get down to just the issue of Jesus, The Man, and god existed in the pious spiritual knowledge of Jesus' mind that
he hoped to teach and show to others. Jesus was big time into the natural ways to heal people, the natural ways for nutrition to stay well, and
doing battled against the issues of the Pharisee and Sadducee that also didn't conform to the pious teachings of what god was about.
Since these issues were that hard to separate in wording, too many people assumed Jesus was god, but Jesus was no more god than Moses. Moses and
Jesus shared their god concepts and that concept of He/The Father resided in both them.
edit on 9-5-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Too many complex concepts of god