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... well to the prophets before Yashua of course.
Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by wildtimes
Too bad. By the time you realize what Christianity really is it's probably too late. Unless you are young.
Why would it be too late? Plenty of people arrive at it later in life; plenty of others are born into it. It makes sense to me to question things until they make sense. Just my nature. This is neither good nor bad, I'm just curious and interested in the Truth.
my recent obsession with the subject I realize has been a coping mechanism in dealing with the death of my father - the first time I have lost a dearly beloved family member. It sent me reeling...my dad was a believer in God, but not religion. I am perhaps vicariously exploring what his decisions were based on. In any case, I am healing from the grief that blew me away like a twig in a tsunami.
We will each have a unique set of difficulties and problems, and because we are all individual, we will arrive at unique points along that path. I get frustrated not "knowing"...
I make it a habit to counter any use of a name other than Jesus to refer to the person in the New Testament known as Christ.
Yes it is becoming apparent lately that the actual name in the original Hebrew bible Jesus was actually called Yahshua or with the correct spelling i assume Yehoshuah , (sorry for my earlier mistake)
Now imagine living for 50 years and doing the same.
Question: "Is Jesus a myth? Is Jesus just a copy of the pagan gods of other ancient religions?"
Answer: There are a number of voices claiming that the accounts of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament are simply myths and were the result of the writers borrowing stories from pagan mythology, such as the stories of Osiris, Dionysus, Adonis, Attis, and Mithras. The claim is that these mythological figures are essentially the same story as what the New Testament ascribes to Jesus Christ of Nazareth. As Dan Brown claims in, The Da Vinci Code, “Nothing in Christianity is original.”
However, once the facts are examined, these claims are proven false. To discover the truth about these particular claims and others like them, it is important to: (1) unearth the history behind their assertions, (2) examine the actual historical portrayals of the false gods being compared to Christ, (3) expose the logical fallacies that the authors are making, and (4) look at why the New Testament Gospels can be trusted as accurately depicting the true and historical Jesus Christ.
. . . and than he has his real name . . .
Originally posted by jmdewey60
"...but to me, any other use is an affectation which is unbecoming of a Christian and something for the "Judaizers" who are our enemy."
edit on 9-5-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Ok, but who is thinking what?
. . . and are beginning to see black/white answers as useless and even dangerous for our future wellbeing . . .
Originally posted by windword
Putting emphasis on his death as opposed to his life and teachings is the downfall and corruption of Christianity.
Of course it matters whether Jesus really lived, or not. If indeed he is a created historical figure, then none of his so-called covenants with humans on this planet are real. Salvation, as currently "achieved" by "believing on Jesus", is a sham. A person who claims to "feel" Jesus' presence is experiencing nothing more than a figment of his or her imagination. It is something that individuals obviously want so badly that it appears to actually manifest itself.
As far as the lessons go, as has already been stated several times in this thread, the bible writings were all based on much older religions and sacred writings. Those lessons on morality and other matters are certainly valuable, but have absolutely no bearing on christianity as it is expressed in modern society.
so we might be at the beginning of a global change in human consciousness – ok so not as exiting as some of the ideas about the future you can find on ATS but if I’m right the change will be profound
. . . you speak of the people that don't as of your enemies... doesn't that go against Jesus's will?