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Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by Char-Lee
Like your source indicates, San Onofre has been shut down since Jan 31 due to a leak in a steam tube.
Diablo Canyon was shut down in April. Read about it HERE
PG&E's utility said it shut down one of the Diablo Canyon units after marine wildlife entered large underwater pipes that siphon seawater to the plant to cool its steam generators.
No reason to elevate the Chicken # Little Alert Level.
Originally posted by PaaatRiot101
Has anyone caught the latest that the sunspot (earth facing next 12 days) is big enough to be viewed with naked eye? Never before in my life time I can say.
SOHO was launched in 1995 as a joint effort between NASA and the European Space Agency, with a sole aim to study the Sun. The mission was supposed to last just two years, but it is still plugging away and has approved support from ESA to continue to do so until at least December.
Originally posted by ZeroGhost
reply to post by CAELENIUM
Good for you, and admitting such a small mistake is in the process of education and understanding. But don't be hard on yourself. Just adapt the habit of asking yourself if you know what you are talking about. All you need to do is type in SOHO to a search engine and you would know in a second.
But let's not learn by mistakes. Look it up and then tell others what you know, because in most cases by looking, you will know more about the subject than most.
But let's not learn by mistakes
Originally posted by ZeroGhost
Every once in a while I peek at the going conversations. Never ceases to increase my fears for our species. Few who talk about science even know its precepts. Few who talk about mysticism either. But for the power to post, anyone can profess an assumed knowledge based on unscientific information. To prove anything you need measurable or corroborative information, vetted by people who DO know science and if possible specialize in the area of discussion. But the media is a cesspool of rumor, sensationalized, knee-jerk and assumed information, and we sheep gorge ourselves, get fat with non-information and imagine we know something. All the more righteous if the information fits our particular belief system and ontology (view of the world).
I tried a bit of spotting for these subjects, trying to correct peoples information, but it was like searching for bad smells with poopy pants. In order to substantiate my own arguments for a sound science for these subjects, and because this the responsibility for an intelligent exploration of the facts, I was spending inordinate amounts of time grabbing good expert vetted information to link or otherwise arguing for the science. While that is fun and educational, I realized I was unfortunately doing the work for those here who do not do their science homework. It was my folly to try and correct anyone who did not want to be corrected, and I suffered the slings and arrows of that here.
The facts are usually under tons of details we know little of unless we dig. Solar sciences, the space-based imaging and research have particularities in it's imaging technologies that if you are not informed can look like anything. Few know what the technology involves and what the so-called anomalies mean. I am not innocent of such assumptive ideas, but I did my homework, knew solar physicists I could ask questions, and while I found they were not as informed on the technical delivery of data they used as I hoped, I went further into the technical of the imaging. I found that the imaging is not all optical, or otherwise what we would assume are lenses and sensors. The systems generate anomalies for many reasons that most would not understand, but that we can use a BS meter to parse the probabilities. An assumed "space ship" on the edge of a solar image with a length the diameter of the Earth is more likely something else. It could be wilder than a space ship too. It could be plasma-based lifeforms for all we know, grazing in the photosphere of the star. But we can't know. Yet armed with some sober methods of research we can keep the tin foil hat from finding our heads. Use our new super computer for the species (Google,Bing-internet) and follow up, find good information, substantiate it, then make your arguments. It's slow, but better information and you educate yourself too.
Originally posted by schlomo
Have you heard about this?
YouTuber claims NASA has edited footage of spaceship near Sun out of SOHO footage
about this video only 1 minute.