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911 Terrorists on trial. Do you want Justice or Revenge?

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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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I want to see Cheney, Bush, Rice, and Fleischer on trial...Those are the worms we have to be worrying about...I'm not concerned about Ramzi, and this so called al-Qaeda faction...They let it happen they should face trial...I would love to see that... Especially when they denied that they had any knowledge of the attacks occurring is just straight bologna....




posted on May, 8 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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America was attacked because of the sanctions against Iraq which resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 children.

Scroll down the article to the Estimates of deaths due to sanctions.

IRAQ SANCTIONS

And also because of American bases in Saudi Arabia. Remember most of the hijackers were Saudis.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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I really commend you on starting this thread. I've read a fair % of it and caught your own background for service. In that light, my respect for starting this thread went up a few levels more.


If I might toss in my buffalo nickel's worth of opinion? I strongly believe we need Justice, not revenge. The time for revenge was on the Battlefield at the point of capture for those we got cold and red handed vs. some of the poor bastards who were sold to U.S. forces on the bounty program. Once we get them into a formal detention though? Justice. 100% Justice.

It isn't for them, either. I have no love or sympathy for the prisoners who remain. In going round after round to final absurd rounds toward the end in looking for reasons the U.S. could release these people and close Gitmo, I can only conclude that the ones who remain are those not even Obama's folks could twist a way to release. May the guilty down there die in a cold cell....Of Old Age....many many years from now. NOT execution.

Don't kill people who actually want that, though. 30-40 more years with the best medical care the world can offer them, so they do live a long long life in that concrete cell sounds far more appropriate. They want to be martyrs. Well.. Too bad, I'd say. We all want things.

NO...Justice is for the United States. If we don't give these animals justice, then what are we fighting to protect? What precisely are we trying to preserve? If we run them through Kangaroo courts, then we've become everything we went to fight. Actually, we'll have become worse. They didn't even play at claiming to have a fair and entirely blind justice system. We claim it as a core value.


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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by HumanCondition
 
Did you just say they have justification for the 9/11 attacks? Really?

Of course they do, we have killed millions of innocent people.
Its not like they have any other options is it
I mean fair enough if there was something else they could do but there isnt and we continue to bomb them, sanction them and make them live in fear.. Its been going on for decades.
We complain about one wussy attack when they have been living through 911 every single day of their lives
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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If executing them is justified by 9/11..
Then wasn't 9/11 justified by us killing millions of their peoples?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 03:20 AM
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You know, thats the second mention of millions of deaths. I don't even see those estimates in the wildest over-reach figures from that extreme. I'm honestly and openly curious before commenting any further. Where are you getting the millions from? 9/11 being related for justification..as the other post to the OP says, would mean millions must have come before Sept, 2001.

I checked casualty stats for other wars and Hanoi claims 1.1 million dead between actual NVA Troops and V.C. in the South. Korea seems to total up around 1.3 million dead..but that includes our own people? Looks like NK isn't contributing much for numbers. China's loses were estimated at 392,000 men.

Korean War Loses

Enemy Dead for Vietnam War

Is that counting the internal losses in Iraq from 1991 to 2003?



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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Sanctions alone have killed millions.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 
Those that would avenge them will attack us regardless. Those that would avenge them are also the ones that would avenge Bin laden. and how's that working out?


i bet you also think "the war on terrorism" is also justice.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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Victims of a tampered mind seek revenge, To put a man in prison over revenge for his undoing is equal to ending his life there and then.
Here's a gun, Shoot him. it's the same thing.

Nobody can be judged by their actions when they are Victims of propaganda and incorrect upbringing, the fault lies on the imperfect world we live in never the individual(s).



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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Revenge? All the innocents who died in the Middle East since your occupation isn't revenge enough? Last time I checked their tally was well beyond 3,000.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Innocent lives for Innocent lives, Most people would see that as some form of sick justice.
But when did America ever stop at justice....



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by abe froman
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They have already admitted guilt,bragged about it,and shouted it from the rooftops. They are 100% guilty with an extra side of guilty sauce.



well we know that already..






"Our purpose was to document the event"


shows forehand knowledge of said event..

now lets have due process & convict these criminals...
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 07:06 AM
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i am against the death penalty... so life in solitary confinement would be the proper solution if found guilty...

otherwise the terror mindset would thrive & spread if they were allowed in a general population of fellow sociopaths


there is no 'justice' being served... it's a matter of sequestering those who would have no hesitation in injuring others, taking them out of society is a moral duty and/or Obligation
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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The 'They' you refer to are in our Government that did all the masterminding of the entire situation. I'm talking of the the 'real' 9-11 terrorists. The same people that commit voter fraud through the media. The same people that feed us bs info on how buildings went down with virtually kerosene. Until justice is served.. you're right, these perps will never stop until we are dead.
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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I say force feed them pork products and give them a big tattoo that says I love America on their foreheads. Let them suffer for a bit knowing that their god will reject them and then kill them.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Who fired Gonzales and Gates? Let me be simple with you. I felt everything you did to them. We caught you and you don't like it. Your bad not mine. You all know it's true too. Now when I tell the C.I.A. months ahead of time Greer and you do not cover your side it was for a reason. Osama attacked the World Trade Center because it was the closest thing he could hit to a Double Helix... This was when Bush was deciding to stop stem cell research in our country. We put our plane down in the Pennsylvania field. I do not expect you to understand why things happen... I have dealt with both sides and cleaned up the messes now I need to clean up more messes cuz I am the best Scientist in the United States.
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Have you ever been treated like a Gitmo Prisoner cuz I have for years and I know the people who run the place too. Boots on the Ground is how that went.
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Oh yeah and if you dumb #s at homeland security keep trying to kill off my agents worldwide I will kick you in your damn teeth myself you dumb little people who couldn't do anyting right if you had to. STOP TORTURING ME! TOUCH THIS ASSHOLE AGAIN! DO IT BITCHES!
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That goes especially for you Charlie Admin Valhalla Aenonymous Villacorta... # you people get the # out of my country and stop asking dumb questions that are gonna get a bunch of CB'ers dead.
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You are fighting with all GS and EG sec clearance Homeland Security we are bigger than you and for damn good reason cuz you couldn't run out of a paper sack if you had to.
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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what a huge load of BS. Maybe they can put em with Judge Judy and see how many ratings they can get. What a #ing joke. You people honestly think this made up Al-Qaeda exists? I guess you people do believe that a man on dialysis ran an operation that evaded NORAD for an hour and managed to hit 75% of his targets.

Even if you still think it was done by terrorists, it gets even better. Most of the terrorists were Saudis. www.pensitoreview.com...

Furthermore, who help Bush fund his Oil Company? www.whale.to...

www.hermes-press.com...

Looks like the Laden family were good ol' friends with the Bush's.

Wait, it gets better! One of the first things they did when they got to Afghanistan was build that big ass Natural gas pipeline! And whos stock jumped that day? Halliburton! It's all money folks, you really think the Corporations care about you? You think Monsanto cares about you? Corporations have bought this country and to think we have a say in anything in this country is hilarious.

www.wsws.org...

So even if you don't believe we can at least agree that this has been done before. Lets look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident. LBJ went on the pretext of a 2nd attack that never happened. Because of that lie, 58 thousands us soldiers were lost, with 5 million Vietnamese dead. Oh, but that happened before, so I guess it cant happen again right?

No one listens the first time.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by MysteriousHusky
To be fair, the Nazis were asking for it. Some have speculated that a few American commanders knew but let the event happen under the pretense that it would justify war with the Germans.


At the danger of going off topic, the USA didn't declare war on Germany after Pearl harbor.

Germany declared war on the USA 4 days after Pearl Harbor in response to the USA declaring war on Japan.


11th December 1941

Germany and Italy have announced they are at war with the United States. America immediately responded by declaring war on the two Axis powers.

BBC


Strangely, nowadays some people would claim that the USA declaring war on Japan in response to Pearl Harbor was a self destructive act. Go figure.


Valid and good point. I apologize for getting my sequence of events wrong.



posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Balasko shut these bitches up. Attrei you wanna meet some real Nazi's with Dagger signed by Hitler cuz I fought real hard to save his life last time we went through this. If you think you are safe in this country and have ever worked for the military or any agency then you had better start to realize you either work for me or you are done. I will kill you #s for treating me like this especially you Military Folks that have forgotten who won you WW II.
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On top of that you continue to think I might let you speak with alien races.... You keep pissing me off there will be asteroids that you cannot knock down that will rip Carbon to shreds.
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I am telling you all to stop talking to me through my television before I do wipe you god damned satellite industry. You want me to be a damn terrorist fine # you worthless people that can't accept good in anything you need that evil well have it you worthless people who don't even have a chance at ever being close to where I have made it in my life.
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Now check your sky.
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You ever built a repeating loop to cure cancer?
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posted on May, 8 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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I'm more than fine with justice. Revenge would ultimately put us on their level...




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