I want to share something, as it came to mind and I can't think of a more relevent thread. A lot of talk here about what is revenge and waterboarding
people like K.S.M. Well, there is a book I read a few years back. It's a long one and for those looking for 007 moments of thrills and intrigue,
it's a pretty boring book. However, for those interested in how the Terrorist Networks in Europe operated in the mid-late 90's and the Afghan
training camps in the late 90's, I've not heard of a better book for information.
Inside the Jihad: My Life with Al Qaeda, a Spy's
Now the first thing one will note is that this guy turned to save his own butt when things went bad for him in Belgium. Through family, he began
working with the system supporting the fight against France in Algeria. When the authorities crashed his party by taking down the safe house is and
his group called home, he flipped and went to Afghanistan to enter the camps on behalf of the French DGSE. Their version of the CIA, more or less. So,
staying true to my own values, I'll say on a character level, he's pretty much a scumbag.
However, he's a scumbag with very valuable insight and perspective to share by going into and completing the training pipeline through the AQ camps
It's more than simply how they learned to shoot, user mortars and that sort of thing. What else would they be doing in such a place? lol... What is
interesting is the great deal of personal attention he gives to the little details and mindsets. The whole ideology and why it works and doesn't
work..or did at that time, anyway.
More important to THIS thread though, is the interrogation training he personally witnessed and which I've read about in other articles in some
detail. The ones who get more than a few pointers and a vest to wear to work that day, apparently get training in that specific area which make the
SEAL SERE training look weak and sad. We don't LITERALLY torture our people to train them. By this book's accounts and how it dovetails with others,
they did then and probably still do now.
So... I ask anyone who complains about waterboarding a man like KSM. Not EVERYONE we capture, but the top command level like him. What else CAN we do
in a time of war, when people are dying...and the man we face for questioning already has training up to and well beyond the legal limits we can ever
take it? Perhaps simulating the act of going all the way......which is what broke that twit. Maybe lives were saved for it. If not our own, then he
was quite a menace to difference factions of his OWN people.
(Excuse typos...I'm too bleary eyed between classes tonight to check every letter..just this once.)