I am a member of the Lenni-Lenape tribe along the US East Coast and I'd just like to stop in and say thank you for this post as it truly warms my heart that we are not forgotten.

It's always so pathetic when people say this country is the brightest and greatest, when really were no different from Germany, Cambodia, or Russia when it comes to Mass Genocide and Big Brother. We murdered 16 million Indians, for what? We turned this great beautiful land into a god damn shopping mall. That's all it is, human farming. The only reason you are worth something, is the fact that you are a drone in this consumer cycle. We are the only thing that keeps this whole system of bull# together.

If we can just finally stop voting, stop relying on the rigged system, we can finally be set free. I would rather live 40 years as an Indian then live in this # filled fake Utopia.

My property was once land the Cherokee's lived on. A small village set here. It is beautiful here. If you dig far enough down you find all manner of items used in their daily lives. I had someone approach me from the University saying they would like to come out and dig. I figured if they came out and dug things up they would take them. My thoughts are the items left behind when they were taken away without being able to take anything with them should stay where they left them.

What I find the worst is the idea's and way of life and belief systems that were forced on the Native Americans. Today we still are doing this same thing through out the world. I look at America today and say "This way is not the right way. Our thoughts are not the right ones. Our way of life is not right yet we think the world should be like us or they should change. If they will not change then we force them to change"

Change is not always good.

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Is anyone on ATS thats Native American ?

I was born here the same as any member of any tribe.
That doesn't qualify me to some but I do have NA blood: My mother's mother was half Chickasaw and somewhere back on my fathers side is Mohawk.

I would like to add that Native Americans do not hold a monopoly on spirituality and nature. Any of us can enjoy the same with the right attitude and experiences. Going to a sweatlodge does not make one spiritual, nor does smoking a peace pipe.
In fact, many Native Americans have completely lost that connection with the Earth and are just as "civilized" as any white person.
Don't let the fact that you are not of Native American descent keep you from experiencing the spiritual aspects of Nature, it's everyone's birthright - even those born in the largest of cities.

The real tragedy of the history of the Native Americans is how being removed from their lands took everything from them - their homes, their connection with the ancestors, their connection with the Earth. The Cherokee who were removed from North Carolina did not know how to live in the land called Oklahoma - it had different plants, animals, soil, weather. Everything they knew about how to live had to abandoned and relearned from scratch.
It's nothing like say if I were to move from Virginia to California. There would still be grocery stores, auto mechanics, doctors, the same medicines. The people and the scenery might feel a little different but that's about all. When native tribes moved they lost a connection that is as deep as family. This is a hard concept to try to convey to modern folks.

A wonderful thread. My two oldest sons are status native.

Originally posted by dullb0y
I am a member of the eastern band of cherokee indians and thank you for the thread this is my first post though so hello ats from oklahoma

dullb0y
Thank you for posting..And a warm welcome to ATS peace,sugarcookie1

Originally posted by GreenEyedVixen

I am a member of the Lenni-Lenape tribe along the US East Coast and I'd just like to stop in and say thank you for this post as it truly warms my heart that we are not forgotten.

edit on 8-5-2012 by GreenEyedVixen because: (no reason given)

GreenEyedVixen
Thank you so much for posting and I'm glad you liked the thread..peace,sugarcookie1

Nice thread SugarCookie. SnF.

Spreading awareness of these atrocities is vital. Comprehension of our past can help mend, and create. It can create an evironment where knowledge of the past, prevents further genocidal behavior in our future.

Thanks again.

Originally posted by Kang69
It's always so pathetic when people say this country is the brightest and greatest, when really were no different from Germany, Cambodia, or Russia when it comes to Mass Genocide and Big Brother. We murdered 16 million Indians, for what? We turned this great beautiful land into a god damn shopping mall. That's all it is, human farming. The only reason you are worth something, is the fact that you are a drone in this consumer cycle. We are the only thing that keeps this whole system of bull# together.

If we can just finally stop voting, stop relying on the rigged system, we can finally be set free. I would rather live 40 years as an Indian then live in this # filled fake Utopia.

Kang69
I agree with you..I would rather live 40 years as an Indian then live in this # filled fake Utopia.
peace,sugarcookie1

Originally posted by Asktheanimals

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Is anyone on ATS thats Native American ?

I was born here the same as any member of any tribe.
That doesn't qualify me to some but I do have NA blood: My mother's mother was half Chickasaw and somewhere back on my fathers side is Mohawk.

I would like to add that Native Americans do not hold a monopoly on spirituality and nature. Any of us can enjoy the same with the right attitude and experiences. Going to a sweatlodge does not make one spiritual, nor does smoking a peace pipe.
In fact, many Native Americans have completely lost that connection with the Earth and are just as "civilized" as any white person.
Don't let the fact that you are not of Native American descent keep you from experiencing the spiritual aspects of Nature, it's everyone's birthright - even those born in the largest of cities.

The real tragedy of the history of the Native Americans is how being removed from their lands took everything from them - their homes, their connection with the ancestors, their connection with the Earth. The Cherokee who were removed from North Carolina did not know how to live in the land called Oklahoma - it had different plants, animals, soil, weather. Everything they knew about how to live had to abandoned and relearned from scratch.
It's nothing like say if I were to move from Virginia to California. There would still be grocery stores, auto mechanics, doctors, the same medicines. The people and the scenery might feel a little different but that's about all. When native tribes moved they lost a connection that is as deep as family. This is a hard concept to try to convey to modern folks.

edit on 8-5-2012 by Asktheanimals because: (no reason given)

I am not of Native American descent but i do love there culture ..And i do agree you don't have to be Native American to enjoy being spiritual ..

I own a farm and work the land plus raise cattle for a living..I love the feeling of being close to mother earth and all it has to offer..I feel very fortunate to be able to do something i love everyday of my life

I'm of Swedish decent most all of my relatives are also farmers but I'm one of the rare few of this generation still doing this..peace,sugarcookie1