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Originally posted by artistpoet
Singing it like it is
Buffy Sainte Marie - "Soldier Blue"
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
from one ndn to you, thx
it's good to know not everyone thinks of us as casinos operator's or drunks.
Originally posted by alldaylong
reply to post by sugarcookie1
The same thing happened in South Africa. Over there they called it "Apartheid"
overcomingapartheid.msu.edu...
The National Party of The Afrikans was condemned for it's actions by the civilised world (including The US who was acting hypoctrically on this matter)
Originally posted by lindsay1984
Thank you for this post. My 3rd Great Grandmother and Grandfather were on the Trail Of Tears and actually survived. They lost 3 of their children and countless other's in their group but they themselves made it to Oklahoma. It is so interesting digging into my ancestors lives because of the rich Native American background we have in my bloodline. I'm always fascinated with Native American artwork, religious beliefs and language. They lived here so long in harmony with our beautiful countryside. It is so sad that in less than 200 years we moved all the 'savages' out so we could rape and abuse THEIR land. Again, thanks for this post.
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by sugarcookie1
Our treatment of the peoples of North America prior to the arrival of the Europeans (sorry, there are no true Native Americans) is a shame and blemish on our history. Our only excuse is that - in those days when our forefathers offended and ran roughshod over those peoples - our culture was far more primitive and our leadership far less receptive to concepts we know today.
NOTE: This is in NO WAY an excuse to dismiss their actions... but we must take history in context to itself.
If I had my way, I would return as much land as I could... without causing more distress and division between all our peoples today. beyond that, I think we should take a step beyond and allow the nation tribes membership in the UN...
redoubt
I've seen photographs that showed descendants of some of these people living in the most ramshackle houses you can imagine.
If we could undo history, I wonder if we'd chose to change how the new people treated the old people of the land. It certainly was a trail of tears.
If it was up to me all there land would be returned ..I don't have any Native American blood in me but it was shameful and cruel the way the American Indians were treated by the early White Man ..peace,sugarcookie1
Originally posted by GBP/JPY
cool thread
I like all the links found on the main video page...
Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by sugarcookie1
Thank you, sugarcookie, a big heartfelt than thank you. My wife is part Cherokee, I am part Montauk Tribe. (Montaukett, Metoac)
I would love to see the Natives get back the land that was taken from them. May the Great Spirit bless you for this one.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
When the English first landed at Jamestown there were over 400 different linguistic groups of indigenous Americans and tribes numbered even more than that.
We often think we owe the Native Americans little more than the land we stole from them but on the contrary many of the crops now grown for food here owe their origins to them.
Corn, potatoes, tomatoes, squash and beans including pole, kidney, snap, lima, butter, navy and frijole were all staples from the New world.
We also owe them for peppers, chocolate, sugar, maple syrup, peanuts and avocados.
Try imagining food without these items. Dinner must have been a terribly dull affair in Europe before the discovery of the Americas.
Even our Constitution is heavily influenced by the Iroquois whose ideas were taken by Benjamin Franklin who was an Indian commissioner to Philadelphia to the very beginnings of the Constitutional convention.
Food, our ideas of freedom and so much more came from the "noble savage". It's no wonder such proud, free people could not successfully be made in to slaves. Many preferred starvation to living under such conditions.
Few, if any tribes anywhere in North America still inhabit the lands they occupied when the white man first came.
That is, among the tribes who weren't driven to extinction which is most of them.
If we can ever learn their wisdom and develop the spiritual practices and attitudes of the Native Americans we may yet learn to live with the Earth instead of living off it. That may be a subtle semantic difference but a huge difference in how we live and consequently whether we survive or not.
The greatest lesson I have learned from them is to treat not only all people as my sisters and brothers but that everything in the natural world are also our relatives.
Also, any important decisions should be made considering how it would affect the Earth 7 generations from now. We don't even plan for 7 months from now, never mind 200 years!
I've rambled enough, thanks for putting up this thread SugarCookie.edit on 7-5-2012 by Asktheanimals because: corrections