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Regardless if it is a negative judgement or not, the Bible clearly states not to judge another person.
The problem comes in that most people who are highly judgmental of others often believe they are above being judged themselves. They also always believe that you should immediately stop whatever it is you're doing and bow down to them, and that they and only they can be right.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Actually, no, not just religious people, but just about anybody with strong beliefs, such as but certainly not limited to, liberals.
Originally posted by HeFrippedMeOff...
I think it is important to remember that "...the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."
Let's examine this: According to this verse, how are unbelievers EVER supposed to believe? We can't receive the things of the Spirit of God.... And, since we can't do that, as it is stated in that verse, it is "just" to torture us forever?
Originally posted by HeFrippedMeOff
I think it is important to remember that "...the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Originally posted by novastrike81
reply to post by Hydroman
You become a believer if God chooses you to believe. Remember, He knew you before you were born, so he knows how your life is going to play out before you're even born.
Damn. I feel sorry for everybody he doesn't choose.
Originally posted by novastrike81
You become a believer if God chooses you to believe. Remember, He knew you before you were born, so he knows how your life is going to play out before you're even born.
Originally posted by cloudyday
Care to elaborate? Is God a kangaroo presiding over his kangaroo court of judgement?
Rom 8:29-30
For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
Ephesians 1:4-6
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Romans 9:14-21
What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
So in short, he creates some people to live with him, and creates most others to burn? Why? To keep heaven warm?
Originally posted by novastrike81
Yes, God does preside over his kangaroo court of judgement. Just accept the fact that you don't have free will. God willed it, so it happened that way. If you're chosen, consider yourself the lucky one.edit on 8-5-2012 by novastrike81 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hydroman
So in short, he creates some people to live with him, and creates most others to burn? Why? To keep heaven warm?
Because they don't love them unconditionally. I would NEVER do that to my kids, or my neighbors kids, or your kids. Next, I assume you say your god is on the same level as humans? Or are humans on the same level as god?
Originally posted by novastrike81
He works in mysterious ways; His ways are not our ways.
Why do adults have children, then abuse and torture them for years? Same principles apply here.
ROMANS 1:
[21] Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
[22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
[23] And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
[24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
[29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
2Tim.3
[1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
[2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
[3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
[5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
[6] For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
[7] Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
[8] Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
[9] But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
[10] But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
[11] Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
[12] Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
[13] But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
[14] But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Do you believe that your god is omniscient? This means that he knows everything, past, present, and future...
Originally posted by ACTS 2:38
But a true believer knows that Hell was not made for men but for the fallen angels.
If we do not repent and turn from our evil ways and chose to live as God has instructed we are choosing Satan and Hell is where we will end up.
Originally posted by ACTS 2:38
If we do not repent and turn from our evil ways and chose to live as God has instructed we are choosing Satan and Hell is where we will end up.