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Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by HumanCondition
That vs. a century of oppression by Jewish bankers.
Which has resulted in many more deaths via poverty and things like that.
No people are not dumb
Not everyone falls for the 'we must pay back debt' crap
They know the bankers are at fault and the bankers at the very top are Jewish
they are the cause of almost every problem in the world today.


Yuck, what a vile comment. "Teh joos are to blame for everything!"
Antisemitic and disgusting.
How is it antisemitic?
Im not blaming all jews am I, semetic actually doesn't even mean jew.

If jewish bankers are doing something wrong which they are I am not the one at fault when I point it out

they have killed more people then the nazis ever did and they should be hung




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Let's see if you get a choice when those same Nazis mandate gas chambers in every town for the lucky citizens of those towns!

I'm sorry but this is insane. Supporting nazis in any form that is.
I would prefer that then the billions of people dying from poverty.
But I think you are over reading the story



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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I don't think people are concerned so much that there are neo-nazi nationalists in Greece, but that there are neo-nazi nationalists in Greece that now have something like 20 seats in a 300 seat parliment. It doesn't surprise me though and I don't blame the Greek people a bit for voting heavily against all of the parties that sold them down the river. Greece is going to default either way. It can continue to go down the path of bailout after bailout to ensure it's creditors are get paid first and can only borrow money at usurious rates or it can default FOR REAL not be able to borrow any money at all and live within it's means. Austerity isn't a policy it's a sure thing either way, but in the latter they can rebuild their economy without owing so many French and German bankers.
It's pretty interesting to me who lives in a non-parlimentary system. It seems like I've heard if no government can be formed there will be another round of elections. So there could be even further gains quickly.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by HumanCondition
 



So exactly what has the Jewish community done to you to make you rather be a nazi? Did they kill everyone you care for or are you just being dumb and immature because that's what's cool?
They control a corrupt scam called the financial system which has caused billions of people to die.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong

Originally posted by OliverNorthsCat
reply to post by Sinny
 


In response to your original provoking comment


I'd rather be born into Jewry (then at least I'd be able to change my religion/ideology) than be a small-minded, criminal with a massive inferiority complex. Nazis are totalitarian maniacs who don't just brutalise and murder jews en masse, they'd do the same to anyone who gets in their way.

So in your response I'd rather be a Jew than me a part of the true scum of humanity.



What about these nazis?

news.bbc.co.uk...


Haha - Yeah seen those ones before
Zionist Nazis talk about the scum of the scum lolz

A lot of those Israeli Nazis aren't even Jewish, they're a side-effect of the Israeli policy of letting ANYONE in Israel so long as they're not the actual Aboriginal Palestinian Christians and Muslims



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by wirehead

Originally posted by wingsfan
In Europe, especially places like Greece, the UN/EU powers that be flooded the local populace out with immigrants. Those immigrants took many of the jobs away and bankrupted otherwise sound social nets. The bankers and politicians idea to fix this problem was to cut these benefits, and to bend the country over with loans.

Europe was very liberal to the end, and this is the end. Nationalist movements are gaining popularity at an increasing rate. And I assure you this wasn't some nazi-led conspiracy, the zionist did this. They did this many, many, many times over the history of Europe, but now it's time they take their communist ways and crooked banking and politics and leave for good.

They want to flood Europe with this immigrants and demand multiculturalism is the only answer, yet they don't allow this to happen in Israel. Same thing happening here in N. America. More and more illegals are brought here and more work visas issued every year, yet economist are baffled as to why unemployment remains high. Isn't rocket science people.


So, what I'm reading here is that we should blame all our problems on immigrants and Jews, and elect Fascist, nationalistic parties to power in order to find a solution? Yes?


If one proceeds with the economic policies of 1932, one ends up with the politics of 1938.

This is A VERY BAD IDEA.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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So bad it could be...EVUL?




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom traveller
reply to post by Maslo
 




I would like to see some actual program or a manifesto before I form a coherent opinion and commence the screaming of "Nazis!".


Their manifesto(in Greek)
xryshaygh.wordpress.com...

Their political proposal for 2012 election(also in Greek)
xryshaygh.wordpress.com...

Use google translator.

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And here are some of Hitlars own speeches.....how remarkably similar they are....same blinders on..same blind abidcation of accountability, same ignorance of alternative options, same rhetoric. I suggest a read..as in the sense they can show us where we are headed if we sit idle on this issue, they are very enlightening..esp as regards his early Munich speeches with are almost verbartim what this new GD party is saying now.

Hitlar used all the same justifcations, spoke intellectually..called on the pride of heart and mind..used the same premises, same contexts, same ' love' of the people. He murdered millions yes, but even more than that horror...what he did was he *empowered* those who now destabalise all our nations.
He empowered those who used even him as a troll and whipping boy in order to deflect collective citizenry's attention from their plans and goals and so seized covert control of the world.

The f*cked up world we live in today is a result of that time period..a direct result of hitlars ego, an ego deliberately manipulated to turn inward instead of out...and so he and the german people and most everday people in the world, were blinded to the true reality going on about them. The man didnt even know he was being used....not too smart.

And you would allow it again and for the outcome to be even worse this time?

Think of the control these control groups already have now..the power over mind body and spirit they weild, the crimes they commit on life not just property and national borders....think how much more they will be able to acomplish if we do not wake up to this brutal game of manipulated cause/affect..one in which we are subject to both and masters of neither..and at the mercy fo those who are.

Sh*t wont change unless we grow the f*ck up...see it for what it really is...get over our selves and ego bitching..and focus on who how when and why..out there...together...as one humanity unwilling to continue the lie.

Ive no doubt at all this GD party will be used in the same way...or worse than hitlar was used..and millions will again will be sent to the slaughter to remove any remnant of potential power base that may threaten the NWO and their plans for what is to come.


Hitlars Speeches:

www.humanitas-international.org...

www.humanitas-international.org...

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...


shrugs..the truth speaks for itself..

Ro



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Rosha
[snip]..I mean..[snip]...is there anything else remotely effective to say to this?

France now in Socialist hands..USA under Socialist control..now Greece lets a 'little bit of hitlar' back in.....


German National Socialism (AKA Nazism) does not equate with socialism as implemented in many other places.

Hitler was only a socialist in two ways:-

a] His plan for revitalising the German economy involved putting most people in the army. Militaries are examples of authoritarian socialism all over the world, including in America. A soldier has pretty much everything provided to him by the state; although where we see the reversion to naked fascism, is in the sense that most of the goods that soldiers need, are sold to the government by corporations.

b] Hitler knew that socialism (the legitimate kind, as implemented via the co-op movement, and governmentally in most Latin American countries) was what the people wanted, so he called himself socialist for that reason. Hitler also knew that Christianity was something that his people at the time wanted, so he would also periodically call himself Christian, depending on who was asking.

What we're currently seeing on a global level, is for the most part not socialism, as defined by anyone whose desire was human wellbeing. It's also necessary to point out, that a number of authors who probably would have referred to themselves as either socialist or Communist, did very much have altruistic intentions.

ANOK and other people here define socialism as worker ownership of the means of production. I personally tend to define socialism, as an approach by the government which involves nationalising (i.e., making public and non-corporate) essential infrastructure and services, with the primary intent being the genuine advancement of public wellbeing.

The pre-corporate Internet conclusively proved, in my mind, that nationalisation (or universalisation) of infrastructure, the maintenance of which is in the universal public interest, can be a profoundly positive and beneficial thing, if it is implemented in a truly decentralised and non-hierarchical manner, and without the involvement of either governmental megalomania, or corporate greed.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Absolutely - Nazi Germany was Totalitarian - in that, the state controlled every aspect of the citizen/subjects life right down to procreation. It's all in Mein Kamf, it's just that most never even bother to read it.

Socialism in the US is a dirty word - UK, Germany and France have ALWAYS been Social Democracies - and we've benefited from it.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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sorry dude but

Golden Dawn describes itself as a "People's Nationalist Movement" and "uncompromising Nationalists."[4] Michaloliakos described Golden Dawn as opposing the "so-called Enlightenment" and the Industrial Revolution.[4][5] Religiously, they currently support both Hellenism and the Greek Orthodox Church.[6] The charter also puts the leader in total control of the party, and formalizes the use of the Roman salute for party members.source[5]


I have to go with wiki on this one
God help the world and what people wish for



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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Any idea how these people became third worlders in the first place ? Research that..Europe is experiencing karma at an exponential rate it seems.


This is complete and total garbage, lies told by people to pit them against each other.

The reason third world countries are as screwed up as they are, is because the leaders of third world nations ( Who are not Europeans ) treat their own so completely horribly, and those who claim different either don't care, or are looking for an excuse to create violence, so those people need to start asking themselves what they are really starting to promote.

Calling people who live in Europe Nazis because they want to shut down immigration and send a great many people back to where they came from, is only going to push people ever more towards that extreme.

Ignoring the reality of the situation is only going to make it worse. People in Europe have a right to be pissed about excessive levels of immigration, and the lack of respect the immigrants have for European culture. This is the reality of the situation.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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This quote from the wonderful Joseph de Maistre sums up my opinion on the matter.

"The constitution of 1795, like its predecessors, has been drawn up for Man. Now, there is no such thing in the world as Man. In the course of my life, I have seen Frenchmen, Italians, Russians, etc.; I am even aware, thanks to Montesquieu, that one can be a Persian. But, as for Man, I declare that I have never met him in my life. If he exists, I certainly have no knowledge of him." - Joseph de Maistre, 'Considerations sur la France' (1797)



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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I am not seeing a problem with anything you have quoted. Technically, I have written far worse by your standards on my blog. And no, I am not a Fascist/National Socialist. Just a humble Catholic Reactionary.


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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Democracy is a screwy thing isnt it



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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These Pogroms are essentially the type of tactic used by Muslims in Europe currently, and black youth in the U.S..

Thinking that Europeans and Whites (and other groups in the U.S.) will continue to stand by and ignore these organized attacks against their communities is shear foolishness.

What we are seeing in Europe, and by many degrees in the U.S., is a natural reaction of communities under attack.

Either moderate voices rise up and speak out against these attacks against good people, by minorities and/or outsiders of the host nations, or the extremist will continue to attract those fed up with the establishments unwillingness to take steps to protect European and Western culture.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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They won't get elected now. The time is not yet ripe. Things not bad enough. A decade/decades down the road, then we should get worried.

What I see happening is nationalistic movements popping up all throughout Europe and possibly the US as things get more miserable. That is the threat we face.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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The pre-corporate Internet conclusively proved, in my mind, that nationalisation (or universalisation) of infrastructure, the maintenance of which is in the universal public interest, can be a profoundly positive and beneficial thing, if it is implemented in a truly decentralised and non-hierarchical manner, and without the involvement of either governmental megalomania, or corporate greed.


Well put, your whole post in addition. This was the goal of the founders of the U.S. Constitution. There is nothing wrong with a reasonable sense of nationalistic pride, and pride in one's ancestors. With the development of solid communities through an evenly enforced fair set of rules, communities can flourish.

There is what seems to be a concerted effort by those in positions of power to create instability, and the break up of any development of community, and excessive immigration is one of the tools, as it was at the turn of the last century, 19th to 20th.

We shouldn't forget that the minority groups are being manipulated into this activity as well.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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If talking ideologies instead of say: countries or specific people. Then the answer would be Christianity has killed more. Hitler spurred his soldiers proclaiming their work to be that of the lords etc. etc.

That being said: Greece going Nazi is a good thing. Imagine all the NEW movies and video games with Grecko Nazis.

We need more nazi's in video games, the only thing that is a better villain would be an undead nazi.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by darthdamo74
reply to post by Six6Six
 


the jews where offered money to leave/relocate twice I think but they refused to go why did the refuse because Isreal was not part of the package they had the choice they chose the camps. and I have seen evidence to suggest they where treated with respect in the camps
also when people talk of the holocaust I ask which one
Holodomor


Your also ignoring the Millions of ethnic Germans butchered in eastern Europe under the Soviets before WW2 and the ethnic/cultural genocide of ethnic Germans in the USA. But that still doesn't make what the Nazi's and the beast Hitler did right. Hitler was a monster who butchered millions of people; German's, Jew's, Roma and Slavic's alike.

Anyone who would defend such a monster gains no sympathy from me.



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