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Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by HumanCondition
That vs. a century of oppression by Jewish bankers.
Which has resulted in many more deaths via poverty and things like that.
No people are not dumb
Not everyone falls for the 'we must pay back debt' crap
They know the bankers are at fault and the bankers at the very top are Jewish
they are the cause of almost every problem in the world today.
Yuck, what a vile comment. "Teh joos are to blame for everything!"
Antisemitic and disgusting.
he didn't write like that, why the ridiculous baby talk fool
Originally posted by auraelium
reply to post by Shred
One of their manifesto pledges is to return eastern cyprus to Greek rule. This shows how disillusioned they are, turkey being the second largest army in Nato..I have no doubt that they would try though if they could.edit on 7-5-2012 by auraelium because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by HumanCondition
That vs. a century of oppression by Jewish bankers.
Which has resulted in many more deaths via poverty and things like that.
No people are not dumb
Not everyone falls for the 'we must pay back debt' crap
They know the bankers are at fault and the bankers at the very top are Jewish
they are the cause of almost every problem in the world today.
Yuck, what a vile comment. "Teh joos are to blame for everything!"
Antisemitic and disgusting.
he didn't write like that, why the ridiculous baby talk fool
I was reducing it to his level.
Chana Joffe: And finally, at the end of 2010, Georgiou and his staff had a new deficit number to report to Eurostat, to the European Statistical Agency. Greek 2009 government deficit, final number-- 15.8% Now 15.8%, that's even higher than the number that set off the debt crisis. But Eurostat praised his methodology. They blessed his number as true. They said, finally we have a real, grown-up number. Meanwhile the Greek old guard? They weren't so happy. People like Konstantinos Skordas didn't like having their previous work criticized. They didn't like the new guy, and they definitely didn't like his new deficit number.
Konstantinos Skordas: Everybody said, oh what number is this? We expected to discuss this matter, some peculiar words he told to us. And we had a lot of questions about it.
Chana Joffe: Skordas and several others in the Greek old guard insisted that a Statistics Office board should have been consulted. In fact, the Greeks in this building, they said, should be involved in anything that gets reported to European authorities about how Greece is doing, especially a deficit number. They argued, they should get to vote. Georgiou, the technocrat, he saw this as a threat to his independence. He told them, you don't get to vote on this. The number is the number.
Andreas Georgiou: But then something happened, which was absolutely shocking.
Chana Joffe: Georgiou says a few weeks after he sent the new deficit number to Eurostat, a colleague of Skordas, a prominent member of the Greek old guard, send him a note and asked to see him. Georgiou says the two met in a small room, adjacent to his office, and the guy from the Greek old guard sat across from Georgiou on the couch.
Andreas Georgiou: And presented me with a document that only existed in an email communication between me and my lawyer through my personal email.
Chana Joffe: What did you say? Andreas Georgiou I didn't say that he has hacked into my emails. I said that this is a product of a criminal act. And the answer that I got was that things like that happen.
Chana Joffe: Things like what happen?
Andreas Georgiou: That things that are in my personal email could find their way around. He said, things like that happen in Greece. And I told him that, no, they don't happen in my country, or at least they shouldn't happen in my country.
Chana Joffe: The old guard, including the man accused, deny this ever happened. And then the Statistics Office workers went on strike against the technocrat, against Georgiou. Twice they striked. Mathematicians and accountants holding signs, walking a picket line. At one point they occupied the building so no one could get in. And then, last fall, Andreas Georgiou got a phone call from a Greek government official.
Andreas Georgiou: The Prosecutor for Economic Crimes.
Chana Joffe: The prosecutor, Georgiou says, explained that the office planned to clarify the contested 2009 deficit number and he wanted Georgiou's help. Georgiou says he sent over 75 boxes of documents, documents which explained exactly how he came up with his real number.
Andreas Georgiou: And a few weeks after that I got another letter asking me to appear in front of the prosecutor. And to my surprise they asked me where my lawyer was. And I asked why I needed a lawyer, and they explained to me that I was being invited as a suspect not as a witness.
Chana Joffe: In other words, Andreas Georgiou is being accused of a crime.
Andreas Georgiou: Something called breach of faith against the state.
Originally posted by blueorder
in your head
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by blueorder
in your head
Anyone who starts off by ranting about jewish bankers is descending to the level of paranoid idiocy. I was reducing his argument - if you can call it that - to its essence. I'm sorry if that offended you.
Originally posted by Sinny
I'm going to get slated for this...but I'm prepared!
Am I the only one that has begrudging respect for the Nazis?
They know wht they want, and they get what they want.
They compramise of some of the greatest minds in history!
And like some other guy said, I'd rather Nazi than Jew.
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Originally posted by Sinny
I'm going to get slated for this...but I'm prepared!
Am I the only one that has begrudging respect for the Nazis?
They know wht they want, and they get what they want.
They compramise of some of the greatest minds in history!
And like some other guy said, I'd rather Nazi than Jew.
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Originally posted by MysteriousHusky
You said you had a "begrudging respect" for the Nazis but would you want to be one? Let alone called one. One has the burden of a history of murders while the other has a banner of recognition for their organized conduct.
P.S. Smoking is bad for you.edit on 7-5-2012 by MysteriousHusky because: addition
"organised conduct"
The National Socialists had "organised conduct" as well
Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by CodyOutlaw
For the historically challenged, BTW, Hitler was a drug addict... or at least was an enthusiastic user with a devoted doctor feelgood.
And most soldiers on all sides popped massive amphetimines as war is hard on sleep.
Originally posted by darthdamo74
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
Does anyone actually know how closely the Golden Dawn's political stance correlates to the 25 Point Program?
I tried to check, but I couldn't find it laid out properly by the Golden Dawn anywhere.
Most neo-Nazis bear little-to-no resemblance to the originals.
I'm fairly certain that Hitler would have found most of them to be sloppy, dirty, badly-presented, ill-educated, alcoholic, disorganized drug addicts who have no real idea what National Socialism is.
edit on 7-5-2012 by CodyOutlaw because: (no reason given)
my only question my friend is Murphy or Ford Translation
Originally posted by MysteriousHusky
"organised conduct"
The National Socialists had "organised conduct" as well
It's hard to compliment the Nazis on anything and I am not going to. To play devil's advocate however, you know what I meant. They were efficient. A lot of groups were in different contexts.
of some of the greatest minds in history
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by Stormdancer777
By purity I obviously mean a nation of Greeks, by Greeks, and for Greeks. All people have a right to a homeland, which is itself clean from what they may define as undesirables. That does not bother me in the least, nor should it anyone else. I dare not be hypocritical about my political choices, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Plus, I find it absolutely hilarious you call me “Darwin” when I am a Reactionary Roman Catholic.
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
Again, I'm asking, has anyone here actually found a manifesto for the Golden Dawn?
And how closely does it resemble the 25 point program?edit on 7-5-2012 by CodyOutlaw because: (no reason given)