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Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by HumanCondition
That vs. a century of oppression by Jewish bankers.
Which has resulted in many more deaths via poverty and things like that.
No people are not dumb
Not everyone falls for the 'we must pay back debt' crap
They know the bankers are at fault and the bankers at the very top are Jewish
they are the cause of almost every problem in the world today.


Yuck, what a vile comment. "Teh joos are to blame for everything!"
Antisemitic and disgusting.


he didn't write like that, why the ridiculous baby talk fool


I was reducing it to his level.




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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They're the second least popular party. Just a sign of how mad and hardcore the ultra-conservatives have become, but the communists and anarchists are dwarfing them all in society still. Having been to Greece I can confirm that neonazis are these #ty males that nobody wants to hang out with.

Greeks are historically opposed to Nazism, as they once were to the Turkish empire. Germans have stolen about 45 billions in gold when they invaded, never gave it back, and how claim that they can dictate their economic rules.

The Greek people fought them in the '40s and are still fighting the fascist invaders today. The only problem is that now it was under guise of "democracy", which is tougher to fight against than an open military invasion.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by auraelium
reply to post by Shred
 


One of their manifesto pledges is to return eastern cyprus to Greek rule. This shows how disillusioned they are, turkey being the second largest army in Nato..I have no doubt that they would try though if they could.
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So if they get into power, they'll start a war. Yup, standard nazi drivel.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by HumanCondition
That vs. a century of oppression by Jewish bankers.
Which has resulted in many more deaths via poverty and things like that.
No people are not dumb
Not everyone falls for the 'we must pay back debt' crap
They know the bankers are at fault and the bankers at the very top are Jewish
they are the cause of almost every problem in the world today.


Yuck, what a vile comment. "Teh joos are to blame for everything!"
Antisemitic and disgusting.


he didn't write like that, why the ridiculous baby talk fool


I was reducing it to his level.


in your head



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Way back in January of this year, Chicago Public Radio's "This American Life" featured an episode (www.thisamericanlife.org...) called "Continental Breakup" discussing the financial situation in countries in the Euro Zone like Greece and Portugal. The following was taken from their transcript regarding Greece and tells the tale of a statistician who was accused of crimes against the state for coming up with a more accurate deficit figure:


Chana Joffe: And finally, at the end of 2010, Georgiou and his staff had a new deficit number to report to Eurostat, to the European Statistical Agency. Greek 2009 government deficit, final number-- 15.8% Now 15.8%, that's even higher than the number that set off the debt crisis. But Eurostat praised his methodology. They blessed his number as true. They said, finally we have a real, grown-up number. Meanwhile the Greek old guard? They weren't so happy. People like Konstantinos Skordas didn't like having their previous work criticized. They didn't like the new guy, and they definitely didn't like his new deficit number.

Konstantinos Skordas: Everybody said, oh what number is this? We expected to discuss this matter, some peculiar words he told to us. And we had a lot of questions about it.

Chana Joffe: Skordas and several others in the Greek old guard insisted that a Statistics Office board should have been consulted. In fact, the Greeks in this building, they said, should be involved in anything that gets reported to European authorities about how Greece is doing, especially a deficit number. They argued, they should get to vote. Georgiou, the technocrat, he saw this as a threat to his independence. He told them, you don't get to vote on this. The number is the number.

Andreas Georgiou: But then something happened, which was absolutely shocking.

Chana Joffe: Georgiou says a few weeks after he sent the new deficit number to Eurostat, a colleague of Skordas, a prominent member of the Greek old guard, send him a note and asked to see him. Georgiou says the two met in a small room, adjacent to his office, and the guy from the Greek old guard sat across from Georgiou on the couch.

Andreas Georgiou: And presented me with a document that only existed in an email communication between me and my lawyer through my personal email.

Chana Joffe: What did you say? Andreas Georgiou I didn't say that he has hacked into my emails. I said that this is a product of a criminal act. And the answer that I got was that things like that happen.

Chana Joffe: Things like what happen?

Andreas Georgiou: That things that are in my personal email could find their way around. He said, things like that happen in Greece. And I told him that, no, they don't happen in my country, or at least they shouldn't happen in my country.

Chana Joffe: The old guard, including the man accused, deny this ever happened. And then the Statistics Office workers went on strike against the technocrat, against Georgiou. Twice they striked. Mathematicians and accountants holding signs, walking a picket line. At one point they occupied the building so no one could get in. And then, last fall, Andreas Georgiou got a phone call from a Greek government official.

Andreas Georgiou: The Prosecutor for Economic Crimes.

Chana Joffe: The prosecutor, Georgiou says, explained that the office planned to clarify the contested 2009 deficit number and he wanted Georgiou's help. Georgiou says he sent over 75 boxes of documents, documents which explained exactly how he came up with his real number.

Andreas Georgiou: And a few weeks after that I got another letter asking me to appear in front of the prosecutor. And to my surprise they asked me where my lawyer was. And I asked why I needed a lawyer, and they explained to me that I was being invited as a suspect not as a witness.

Chana Joffe: In other words, Andreas Georgiou is being accused of a crime.

Andreas Georgiou: Something called breach of faith against the state.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by blueorder
in your head


Anyone who starts off by ranting about jewish bankers is descending to the level of paranoid idiocy. I was reducing his argument - if you can call it that - to its essence. I'm sorry if that offended you.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by blueorder
in your head


Anyone who starts off by ranting about jewish bankers is descending to the level of paranoid idiocy. I was reducing his argument - if you can call it that - to its essence. I'm sorry if that offended you.


you weren't

me pointing that out was not me being offended,



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Calling the Golden Dawn party neo-NAZI is going overboard. Sounds more like they are simply a party trying to take a stand against immigration.

Will Nazism rise again in the world? Maybe, probably to a certain degree. It seems likely that some sort of social cycle is about to occur. As cycles go, conventions will go too far, but the current situation isn't acceptable either. Western nations shouldn't be expected to take in all the third world refugees, and attempting to do this is destroying the Western nations, the only places where there is freedom, prosperity, and law and order for the masses.

Western culture is currently under attack by people who claim a higher moral ground, but in fact have no moral leg to stand on. It is only natural that Western nations will act to defend themselves, but I don't see this going anywhere near the madness of the the Third Reich.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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I'm going to get slated for this...but I'm prepared!

Am I the only one that has begrudging respect for the Nazis?

They know wht they want, and they get what they want.
They compramise of some of the greatest minds in history!

And like some other guy said, I'd rather Nazi than Jew.

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
I'm going to get slated for this...but I'm prepared!

Am I the only one that has begrudging respect for the Nazis?

They know wht they want, and they get what they want.
They compramise of some of the greatest minds in history!

And like some other guy said, I'd rather Nazi than Jew.

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You said you had a "begrudging respect" for the Nazis but would you want to be one? Let alone called one. One has the burden of a history of murders while the other has a banner of recognition for their organized conduct.

P.S. Smoking is bad for you.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
I'm going to get slated for this...but I'm prepared!

Am I the only one that has begrudging respect for the Nazis?

They know wht they want, and they get what they want.
They compramise of some of the greatest minds in history!

And like some other guy said, I'd rather Nazi than Jew.

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You do realise that you're talking about the dribbling idiots who wrote of Relativity as 'Jewish science' don't you? Or are you just yanking our chains to get a reaction? I have nothing but a hearty loathing of the scum.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by MysteriousHusky
You said you had a "begrudging respect" for the Nazis but would you want to be one? Let alone called one. One has the burden of a history of murders while the other has a banner of recognition for their organized conduct.

P.S. Smoking is bad for you.
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"organised conduct"


The National Socialists had "organised conduct" as well



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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"organised conduct"

The National Socialists had "organised conduct" as well


It's hard to compliment the Nazis on anything and I am not going to. To play devil's advocate however, you know what I meant. They were efficient. A lot of groups were in different contexts.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by CodyOutlaw
 


For the historically challenged, BTW, Hitler was a drug addict... or at least was an enthusiastic user with a devoted doctor feelgood.

And most soldiers on all sides popped massive amphetimines as war is hard on sleep.


1. There is a rather large difference inherent between drug addict and drug user.
2. Hitler was anything but disorganized.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by darthdamo74

Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
Does anyone actually know how closely the Golden Dawn's political stance correlates to the 25 Point Program?

I tried to check, but I couldn't find it laid out properly by the Golden Dawn anywhere.

Most neo-Nazis bear little-to-no resemblance to the originals.

I'm fairly certain that Hitler would have found most of them to be sloppy, dirty, badly-presented, ill-educated, alcoholic, disorganized drug addicts who have no real idea what National Socialism is.


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my only question my friend is Murphy or Ford Translation


Murphy, my friend, definitely Murphy.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by MysteriousHusky



"organised conduct"

The National Socialists had "organised conduct" as well


It's hard to compliment the Nazis on anything and I am not going to. To play devil's advocate however, you know what I meant. They were efficient. A lot of groups were in different contexts.


whether you find it hard or not is irrelevant- let the light shine on everything, only the darkness fears the light



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Again, I'm asking, has anyone here actually found a manifesto for the Golden Dawn?
And how closely does it resemble the 25 point program?
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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of some of the greatest minds in history


I'll grant you that, no one said they were stupid, you don't have to stupid to be evil.
hnn.us...

www.jlaw.com...

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


By purity I obviously mean a nation of Greeks, by Greeks, and for Greeks. All people have a right to a homeland, which is itself clean from what they may define as undesirables. That does not bother me in the least, nor should it anyone else. I dare not be hypocritical about my political choices, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Plus, I find it absolutely hilarious you call me “Darwin” when I am a Reactionary Roman Catholic.



Greeks are not a separate species that were magically created in Greece, every human on this Earth started in the same place so your idea of purity is turning a blind eye to a large part of human history before Greece even had a name. Like it a not all those "pure" Greeks will have ancestors from other regions and you do to.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
Again, I'm asking, has anyone here actually found a manifesto for the Golden Dawn?
And how closely does it resemble the 25 point program?
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I actually have books by the Golden dawn, I will have to find them though.




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