Fukushima Reactor 4 Could Unleash 85 times Cesium-137 Radiation; Human Civilization on the Brink

Originally posted by amongus

Originally posted by Covertblack

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Mike Adams owns Naturalnews which is not a non-profit. He states he takes no pay but is a well know holistic medicine activist, former Scientologists (who still defends them) and all around quack in my opinion. He's opposed to eating cooked foods and all medicine of any kind.

RationalWiki article about him and that site.

I will start to believe this once a member of the associated press puts it out there.

Prepare to wait if you are waiting for the MSM bud......

Yes prepare to wait because these people only report real news. Not this made up drivel.

reply to post by The X

That is what i hate about this site, irreverant idiots decrying other people for being woo woo for their beliefs whilst further espousing their own brand of woo woo religion, but, because it is "religious" woo woo, somehow they are right?.

I'm sorry you hate that. Guess I missed the memo. For sure I would've considered that had I known. I would apologise if this reply weren't steeped in sarcasm.

Also religion is something I have nothing to do with. Religion is something man makes of use to himself.

I simply refuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater because of mans weak use of Gods word.

I believe the Bible and I try to follow Christ. That's what makes me a Christian. Not being a part of some organized heavenly realty service on any sunday.

The fact remains, the truth was told about this deception being perped upon you. So I try to warn those who might listen. That which you obviously don't know about them. Is everywhere, because the Bible is everywhere !
So you will be without any excuses and have no way to defend your ignorance, to what is written and ready available. And why ? How is this possible ?

Because you were naive in your own arrogance, thinking you know it all in perfect righteousness, from the beginning.

" I know of only two things that go to infinity. The universe and the stupidity of man. I'm not real sure about the universe ".

Albert Einstein

Originally posted by GuidedKill
reply to post by Ben81

 

I would gladly take a family from Japan and offer them my home. This is a human being problem and the people of Japan are my fellow human beings. I would have no problem giving them a roof over their head and a chance at a new life. I'm sure I am not alone in feeling this way. If only a few would step up we would have no problem moving 120 million people.

Speaking of displaced citizens. This brings back to light the whole issue of China building "ghost cities" does it not?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

If the people in Japan needed somewhere to go, this would seem pretty plausible.

reply to post by Ben81


They covered Chernoble with concrete because basically that reactor was built out in the open.

reply to post by Ben81


Why would this explode again ? Melt down is one thing and explosion is another. Where is the energy for an explosion coming from? Oh yeah, its not.

reply to post by Ben81


You're boardering on hilarious now.

Explain how one reactor would put the human civilization on the brink. Seriously.

Any data? No. Just a bunch of random opinions and fear-mongering is all I gather from this thread.

reply to post by unityemissions


There were about 31 immediate deaths attributed to the Chernoble disaster. About 135 that were diagnosed with acute radiation syndrom and about 14 more died from that group. There have been a few thousand thyroid cancer cases attributed to the disaster. Although Russia was dismally slow in reporting anything out of the area when the news was finally vetted the results were the above figures. Not 10's of thousand of people affected. A few thousand and not too many deaths. One of the 31 above was a heart attack that occurred during the disaster to a worker at the plant and two of the above deaths were blast related while the remainder was radiation poisioning.

www.magma.ca...

reply to post by Ben81


There's nothing left to do. The world is in for a lot of pain and suffering. If there is a cure for radiation poisoning discovered soon...that would be great, but what about mutations to DNA? Even then, what about other life, such as plants and animals? Contaminated water? Either we become superhuman beings...or most likely...we die a slow and horrible death. I really don't think that TPTB had planned to kill people off this way...they are in danger as well. Going underground isn't going to help anything. I just don't see any other solutions. The damage has been done.

Enjoy your health and loved ones while you can. Unless we can find a way to counteract radiation without any adverse effects, we are doomed. For any younger people with a desire to have children...eugenics will probably make a serious comeback because of gene mutations. What kind of world would a child see twenty years from now anyway?

Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by amongus

Originally posted by Covertblack

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Mike Adams owns Naturalnews which is not a non-profit. He states he takes no pay but is a well know holistic medicine activist, former Scientologists (who still defends them) and all around quack in my opinion. He's opposed to eating cooked foods and all medicine of any kind.

RationalWiki article about him and that site.

I will start to believe this once a member of the associated press puts it out there.

Prepare to wait if you are waiting for the MSM bud......

Once again, if you think that, whynare you on this thread?

Yes prepare to wait because these people only report real news. Not this made up drivel.

Originally posted by reclaimed
i know this is a conspiracy site
but really,do aliens have to be brought up in every topic

I'd rather it be aliens than jesus.

Originally posted by wwwchronos
reply to post by amongus

 

Why that words.
Man... English is not my native language
I learned english recently, still learning.
Anyway. How u havea valid argument.
Learn. Sentence..blahblah
Bye bye poopypants

I did not know you did not know engrish.

Thanks for acknowledging that I had a valid argument..

Mods, can we please increase the mandatory 20 posts for new members to 100? This is getting out of control...

What I can't stand is how no one believes this is happening...

People look at you like you're an idiot when you tell them just how bad the Fukushima incident was. After all, it's not in the media... so it's not happening.

And as a regular citizen, who doesn't have tons of resources at her disposal, there is absolutely nothing I can do about it besides informing people of what I know.

And when informing people makes me out to be some kind of freak, it really makes me think, "Why bother?"

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by Ben81

 

Why would this explode again ? Melt down is one thing and explosion is another. Where is the energy for an explosion coming from? Oh yeah, its not.

Explode in my mind is like a meltdown
if it fail .. explosion or not .. it will make things worst

Im not a specialist .. just researched a bit on how bad nuclear can be if not sealed properly
the radiations can travel from far away by land sea and air
once radiation touch something .. it will not go away
eventually all living thing die around it

whats happening in Japan is the worst Nuclear catastrophe in human history
if you think chernobyl or even the BP oil spill was grave .. you have no idea

Dont understimate whats happening at Fukushima is all i can say
with the 3 first reactor already destroyed .. we already are in deep s***
but if the fourth with all his reserve and extremely more radioactive stuff that contains it
if this one fail to .. the 3 first will pale to compare to the fourth one .. most important one

reply to post by karen61057


Actually, there's many different reports, that come up with vastly different numbers.

You cite a few thousand cases of thyroid cancer being reported from it...okay, from which source did you get this from?

If you search long enough, you'll find that nobody knows. There is no exact science to figure this out.

They plug in some numbers into an equation, and even the numbers they use can be off.

Tell you what, can you find me just the amount of each radioactive material which was at chernobyl 4? Are you sure? Try digging deeper, you'll find that reports conflict each other.

The best we can do is guestimate. 10,000 was a low-ball figure based on the reports I've seen, and I've looked through more than a few in the last year.

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by Ben81

 

Why would this explode again ? Melt down is one thing and explosion is another. Where is the energy for an explosion coming from? Oh yeah, its not.

I think the risk is of radiation release through fire, rather than an explosion. Another earthquake of reasonable magnitude could destroy the already badly damaged housing of reactor 4, releasing the water which is cooling it. That would cause a fire and radioactive plume etc, which could not be tackled due to extreme radiation levels.

reply to post by Vandettas


I honestly don't think people read or pay attention IN THE LEAST.

This is not about one reactor. It's about the spent fuel pools, the most precarious of which is in reactor building 4, 100ft in the air, and hanging by a thread in a blown out building.

Combined, all the fuel pools on site have over 11,000 spent fuel rods. If building 4 collapses (and one look at any video of building 4 will tell you that it's MORE than possible it will), or the pool is ruptured, all those rods begin heating up, eventually catching fire and melting down - TOTALLY OUTSIDE of ANY form of containment. Fuel pools are open air! No concrete, no suppression chambers, no fail-safes. You'd have a raging nuclear fire in the parking lot!

If that were to happen, the entire site would have to be abandoned. We simply do not have the technology to protect humans from direct exposure to radiation of that intensity. With the plant abandoned, who's going to maintain the cooling on the other fuel pools and reactors? Eventually, all 11,000+ spent fuel rods would go into meltdown, again - totally outside of any form of containment - with no way to stop it.

I'm sorry if people find these facts to be "fear mongering", but one look at that video released last week by TEPCO of reactor building 4, up-close and personal, should give you an idea of how bad this truly is. The rest is simple math and the cold, hard facts about radiation.

There ARE that man rods on-site. That building IS completely devastated. 80x the cesium of Chernobyl WOULD make it's way around the northern hemisphere. And yes, folks, that *is* a danger to civilization.

Like it or not, believe it or not.

reply to post by Ben81


People can speculate all day long on what the long term effects would be on the Earth, but the fact remains that NO BODY KNOWS... This has never happened before, so if the worst case scenario does happen to this plant the only thing we can really do is sit back and see if all these scientists are correct with these predictions... Only time will tell..

reply to post by Nyteskye


I believe everything you say, except that it's a danger to civilization, and that saying it is isn't "fear mongering".

Over 55 million people are thought to die each year....that's over a billion people in 20 years....yet this (very high estimate) of a potential of 85 million is going to screw everything up?

How's the land and species doing close to Chernobyl?? Last I heard it was thriving, and evolving at a crazy fast rate!

Not to say this would be a good thing, but ...c'mon now...what you're saying, a danger to civilization? Yeah, that's fear-mongering.