Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

ok for all those saying Romney doesn't have a plan. Why don't you read the OP?

Why do you all think Romney doesn't have a plan? Because it doesn't match Paul's? Wake up call! NO President in the running ever had exactly Paul's plan, and they still won too! So, was that all a conspiracy as well? Even if Paul's movement was not even as powerful as it was in 2012?

I'm all done here. I took some time to read our little banter here, and realized something that I hadn't before.

I realized you are actually full of hate and completely lost with regard to being a debatable person. Your long list of "qualities" that Ron Paul has shows me that your mind is lost, and not worth trying to help.

So, here's my advice. Be careful to whom you utter words such as the ones you have. Free Speech is something I adore and will defend, but being vile and hateful will still cause most Men to react instinctively instead of with their higher cognition. And what that means is you might get a butt-stock in the face, or worse. The revolution that will come as a result of the 100+ years of liberty-taking will end in causalities most likely. I strongly urge you to reconsider your hateful ways and get back to the reality that is the issue at hand. Treating people the way you do will not serve you in the future. Common law is much like the golden rule, and means you should do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Remember that.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
I'm all done here. I took some time to read our little banter here, and realized something that I hadn't before.

I realized you are actually full of hate and completely lost with regard to being a debatable person. Your long list of "qualities" that Ron Paul has shows me that your mind is lost, and not worth trying to help.

So, here's my advice. Be careful to whom you utter words such as the ones you have. Free Speech is something I adore and will defend, but being vile and hateful will still cause most Men to react instinctively instead of with their higher cognition. And what that means is you might get a butt-stock in the face, or worse. The revolution that will come as a result of the 100+ years of liberty-taking will end in causalities most likely. I strongly urge you to reconsider your hateful ways and get back to the reality that is the issue at hand. Treating people the way you do will not serve you in the future. Common law is much like the golden rule, and means you should do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Remember that.

Give me examples of where I hated anybody but only showed strong suspicions of Ron Paul and his group of followers? You are the one insulting me! I have never insulted you. I just asked questions which you haven't answered without pointing me to Ron Paul's websites, his videos, anti-romney videos, or insulting me!

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Originally posted by fourthmeal
Nah, you don't get it and you're not worth my time, or for that matter anybody else here.

See, it took me a little while analyzing our conversation, and I realized that the reason I was having such a "non-Sequitor" sensation with you is that your personality type and mine are likely polar opposite. You are the kind of person that accuses others, blames groups, or puts lies out there as fact. I am recalling a certain "Bitcoin" virus accusation.

You lie to yourself while questioning things I say or post, and then back it up with some form of defense or reasoning to try to make sense of it in your mind. That's why when people show you information, you go blind to it or switch up to another topic and begin another attack.

You also have a complete lack of understanding of what Libertarian and Liberal mean. Here you are, with two polar opposites, and you equate the two.

No, I've had enough.

You sir, are killing this thread by your pointless insults and dodging my questions. Stop posting here if you cannot post without insulting me. Which you have still failed to prove that I ever insulted anyone.

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Mit Romney has what 52 billionaires who helped fund his campaign, that we know of... That means Mit Romney OWES those BILLIONAIRES and not the people, which means Mit Romney is just full of HOT AIR and will not help the people but will help those billionaires that helped him if he is elected...

How many billionaires helped Ron Paul's campaing?.... ZERO!!!

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
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Mit Romney has what 52 billionaires who helped fund his campaign, that we know of... That means Mit Romney OWES those BILLIONAIRES and not the people, which means Mit Romney is just full of HOT AIR and will not help the people but will help those billionaires that helped him if he is elected...

How many billionaires helped Ron Paul's campaing?.... ZERO!!!

edit on 9-5-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

So What? Billionaires see Romney as a good investment and not Ron Paul Ron paul is a crook who steals money from average every day Americans and promises change that will never happen because he won't win. At least Romney has a very good chance at winning since the Billionaires who previously backed Obama are now going to Romney!

Oh and Billionaires and Multi Millionaires a like have sponsored Ron Paul too: Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek, Scott Banister, Stephen Oskoui, Jeffrey Harmon, James O’Neill, and Jonathan Cain

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
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Oh and Billionaires and Multi Millionaires a like have sponsored Ron Paul too: Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek, Scott Banister, Stephen Oskoui, Jeffrey Harmon, James O’Neill, and Jonathan Cain

Would you actually PROVE this?

Prove Ron Paul is "steeling money from the people"...

BTW, there is a difference between agreeing with Ron Paul, and giving him money for his campaign.

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I hate to say it but this partisan trolling crap has to end.

It's of no use to anyone on here at this point.

Can we give this thread a rest. It is pointless and it is sad that it is the most popular thread right now.

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I hate to say it but this partisan trolling crap has to end.

It's of no use to anyone on here at this point.

Can we give this thread a rest. It is pointless and it is sad that it is the most popular thread right now.

I agree, the fact that this useless asshat has people posting non stop in this useless thread is astounding. His thread title alone shows where this tools head is at, and it's not being used to think for himself.

The guy is a douche bag.

The Sword, dron020 and macaronicaesar you're all right - I've been periodically checking into this thread and saying exactly the same thing yet people refuse to realise the guy is a trolling - he should really be given a medal cause he's so goddamn good at it - I've never seen one troll riling so many people on a single forum thread in aaaages LOL

I think deep down we all like a good arugment which is why some of the others are still posting - plus the fact that it's so easy to discredit Romney

Insults you've made - Indirect, snide, and back-handed comments are the same as calling someone out:

"You really are delusional are you! you revert to the name calling and yet nothing in Romney's plans indicates that he is liberal. He has followed more closely with conservative and... libertarian ideas moreso than ron paul actually has. You know RomneyCare? Yeah, it would happen under RP libertarian plans too. What is his plan for fixing health care? Let the states handle it! And that's what Mass did.

You can't call someone a liberal just because they are less extreme when it comes to government constitution policies than you are... "
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"But.... He's still in last place. Your arguments are typical rhetoric with little facts to back it up just more conspiracy brainwashing BS."
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"Yeah and you are making up your own definitions... "
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"...Besides hating the gays he takes a very religious stance on many other things. He is attempting to force his beliefs on the rest of America, exactly what he would do as president. "
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And to the person saying Mormon's shouldn't run for President due to their religion. That's better than electing a muslim socialist and a crazy creationist who is anti-Semite and racist!
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"Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about"
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"You are anti-establishment and anti-government. You can't have it both ways either. It was a political attack to make me look like a liberal I promise you I am not. Check my history, I just know that We need government policies to help protect us. Can you not read??"
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name me someone who is not influenced by "special interests!"

really you people are delusional! and are now pulling at the same old straws.
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SO I guess it's just a coincidence that after trying to debate with you guys on this forum, my computer gets infected with a virus and all that I've been doing was ATS... Keep your freaking bitcoins! I don't want or need them... Jeez you people really are selfish!
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And finally

This whole hot mess you left in your thread -
"Doddering fool
Nut, nutcase, nutty
Lying liar
Crazy
Idiot
Old
Senile
Cranky
Not presidential
Rambles incoherently
Out of touch with reality
Suits are rumple
Extremist
Outside the mainstream
RINO
Racist
Made money from racist newsletter
Anti-Israel, anti-Semite, anti-Jew
Against education and children
Against people with AIDS
Against gays
Wants everyone addicted to drugs
Isolationist
Against national defense
Supports the terrorists
Blames America
Weak on foreign policy
Wants another Hitler
Wants Iran to nuke us
Conspiracy theorist
9/11 truther
Lacks compassion
Hypocrite – gets earmarks
Unelectable
Unfairly affects polls, surveys, voting
Buys off other campaign’s chairman
Not a leader
Never accomplished anything
Did not pass legislation
Supporters are:
Rude"
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So here's what I have to say to you, and I'm out:

See I read you like a book, I get it...But you want to vote for the crook, forget it.
Siding with the establishment, all for totalitarian government
You think this guy is heaven-sent
Dissin' Ron Paul for President

Rom's a puppet to the Powers that run the show
You see a Candidate, I see a mortal FOE

He's 10th cousin to Bush twice remove
He that claims the values of faith, tryin' to be smooth

On script he talks a good game, claiming accomplishment
But the paper he made was not legit, healthy companies torn up bit by bit
And you want this Corporatist as your President?

Can't you see he's truly two-faced talkin' to you?
He's angry when asked questions by people that weren't supposed to

Is it good when he said "Corporations are People, friend?"
Corporations rule the world, handlin' politics by string's end
Puppets in the government making the laws bend

Reporters get the brow and the quick retort back
Rhetoric nonsense spews like an insane homeless quack
His campaign has been caught frauding the people's choice

You're gonna back up this guy, that silences the People's voice?
Claims of voter fraud all over the place
Proof is coming out, precincts red in the face

Iowa did it, Nevada done
Election process hijacked, cheatin' guy are won.

State after state, the votes come from the people proper
turn out to be Diebold programmed to this freedom stopper

Guilty of treason, only one punishment fit.
Screw with America's Freedom, you'll "git what you git"

-Me

So the polls today show Romney way ahead of Obama, and no sign of Ron Paul... I guess thats a giant conspiracy though

Because keeping THOUSANDS of people to keep their mouth shut about a mass conspiracy is easy to do.... oh wait, the CIA even gets leaks now and then.... and they are trained liars...

Hmmm Maybe I was right RP is being controlled by the CIA in order to split the vote (example: Ross Perot)

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Why I Am Closing This Thread

In response to a series of alerts and complaints, and several obvious problems as mentioned in my previous post, I have been reviewing this thread. In the process of doing so, I have concluded it should be closed.

Here's why. I know it's a long explanation and wouldn't resent anyone skipping over it, but I want to make sure my reasons are as clear as possible in the hope that other threads won't have to be closed for the same reasons.

It's a given that political discussions will tend to be passionate, partisan and polarized. They don't have to be, but it doesn't take much to end up there.

All ATSers are entitled to their own opinions and, provided they are expressed in accordance with the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use, welcome to share them in our forums. Unsurprisingly, we will see strong political opinions in the political forums. That goes with the turf.

As is all too often the case, the problem with this thread isn't one of political opinions. It's a problem with courtesy.

We've removed quite a few posts, may remove more, and God knows there are even more beyond that which really don't belong on ATS. Sometimes we'll close a thread if it just gets too out of hand to leave open, but wherever possible, we will do our best to defend a member's thread from trolling, harassment and disruption.

That is, unless the member who started the thread is also doing these things, in which case there's nothing to defend. Why should we respect the thread if even the OP doesn't?

The problems started on page one. Alas, the first reply was a pointless ad hom, so okay, I can cut the OP some slack for getting slammed out the gate, and the response was great. I can admire that.

Then, in the very next post from the OP, we come to this. Whatever the reason, when we start labeling what other members say as "ignorant and stupid", we forfeit the pretext of civility and only invite more of the same. And then the next post ("You people are seriously delusional if you think that!"), and then this ("Seriously? Are you a child?").

At that point, I'm already convinced the thread should be closed, but it just goes on and on, page after page of sniping, baiting and yes, trolling:

jjf3rd77's posts in this thread.

That does not excuse the bad behavior of any other member, nor is calling any ATSer a "troll" ever justified. I'm seeing plenty of trolling but not any trolls, just fellow members who should know better saying things they shouldn't.

We do our best to defend the ability of every member to share their opinions without fear of ridicule or abuse, but when those opinions are themselves laced with ridicule and abuse, they have no legitimate place on ATS.

I know it seems harsh, and I'm sorry it has come to this, but because it has been so thoroughly tainted by the member who started it, this thread simply cannot be defended, which is why it is now closed.