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Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Hardstepah
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and just who said i was libertarian?
you still have yet to answer with a serious answer. you keep complaining about "ron paul supporter conspiracy theories" yet you cry conspiracy for the same reasons those crazy RP supporters do about the media not covering him. you can't have it both ways kiddo. answer the question. here have a look for yourself, if you think this is just media spin you are naive. you can't debunk when it comes straight from the horses lying mouth.

romney flip flops you can see for yourself

i am sure you won't even bother clicking the link because it brings down your whole argument of "media bias". they are simply clips of him saying one thing yesterday and then saying the opposite the next. consistent flopping. since i shout "vote for the consistent candidate", maybe i SHOULD vote romney!


So? Reagan was a liberal democrat in the beginning, Ron Paul is libertarian hiding in the republican party, rick perry used to be a democrat....This is america and people have the right to choose which party they belong to! I'm sick of the flip flopping attacks, because frankly I am ok with them and do not care, nothing about his flip flops affects me or my decision to vote for the guy, maybe it does you and that's fine I don't care who you vote for. But I don't see why asking me to explain everything he meant to you will get you to change your mind about voting for him or not, which is not the point of this thread anyway.




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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So, what do you think about him admitting that he votes the way his special interest groups tell him?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Thank you,
You know a lot of folks around here think you are a political shill.
I don't. I just think you are politically opinionated.

And I'm not right or left. I took a political poll and I came up far and away a libertarian.

Good luck with Romney. Even if he gets past Ron Paul's delegate strategy to take the nomination,
I believe the fix is already in with Obama. And Obama does have a few supporters left to help the
illusion along. And some of them are still very passionate about him...



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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oh wow i just noticed your signature. "Ron Paul: Republican in Name ONLY"

lol you're one of THOSE. somebody who votes based on the letters next to a candidates name not the issues. which solves why you would vote romney instead of obama.same guy except for the letter next to his name



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
So, what do you think about him admitting that he votes the way his special interest groups tell him?


name me someone who is not influenced by "special interests!"

really you people are delusional! and are now pulling at the same old straws.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hardstepah
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oh wow i just noticed your signature. "Ron Paul: Republican in Name ONLY"

lol you're one of THOSE. somebody who votes based on the letters next to a candidates name not the issues. which solves why you would vote romney instead of obama.same guy except for the letter next to his name


Read the OP. I have faith he will get some of these things done! That's all I have to say about it. Those are issues I care about, not sure which issues you are talking about...But those are the issues that I care about and the plan sounds pretty good to me.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Mitt Romney has media bias and big corporate money backing his campaign.

Ron Paul has the PEOPLE backing his campaign.

Look for yourself.

A question for jjf3rd77. Can you, with a straight face, deny that there has been a conspiracy and absolute bias against Ron Paul in the mainstream media?

Connect the dots brother, Romney doesn't serve your best interests. Stop voting for bureaucrats that don't care about you at all.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
So, what do you think about him admitting that he votes the way his special interest groups tell him?


name me someone who is not influenced by "special interests!"

really you people are delusional! and are now pulling at the same old straws.


His name is Ron Paul.

Also, Dennis Kucinich.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77
I would like to know how a libertarian policy which is very pro-corporation. will make everything all better?


I don't think there are any such policies. Libertarians are, by definition, proponents of individual liberty. Corporations are, by definition, collectivist, like communism. The main difference between communism and corporatism is which collective collects all the gold. In both cases, the individual is screwed.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
So, what do you think about him admitting that he votes the way his special interest groups tell him?


name me someone who is not influenced by "special interests!"

really you people are delusional! and are now pulling at the same old straws.


His name is Ron Paul.

Also, Dennis Kucinich.



Ron Paul has special interests...trust me he has some big backers too. He has a super pac. He has people who writes his books, he has you guys here on ATS!!!! I could go on...



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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this is what flip flopping means. say romney is elected on the basis of "i'm going to cut this to save money".

while in office he suddenly says "i support this, why would i cut it to save a little bit of money?"

why is that not an issue? show me consistency, and you have my vote.

i think i am already done here, you can't answer a simple question without trying to use your high school debate team tactics. you don't post a thread saying "i'm voting for so and so because" and go on the attack when somebody voting for a different candidate challenges your moot points. good luck, with this debate though, you seem to need it.

and with that, i bid you a "good day sir"



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit
Mitt Romney has media bias and big corporate money backing his campaign.

Ron Paul has the PEOPLE backing his campaign.

Look for yourself.

A question for jjf3rd77. Can you, with a straight face, deny that there has been a conspiracy and absolute bias against Ron Paul in the mainstream media?

Connect the dots brother, Romney doesn't serve your best interests. Stop voting for bureaucrats that don't care about you at all.
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Eh Ron Paul has some people backing his campaign... Not all of them, hence he is not winning! What does this have to do with the OP??? For now on I am not answering anymore stupid questions about Ron Paul until mine are addressed.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Your points were worthless, you get the same with Obama.

I can't believe so many people have explained to you that Romney is a liberal and you can't get that through your head. War is not conservatism. Romney is backed by the same people that back Obama. They are one in the same.

I hope you do some serious reading and learn the true definitions of liberal and conservative before you vote, but I have a feeling you will just vote Romney and then complain for the next four years when your guy wins. Ironically you will probably be telling people "don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul".. but you'll know.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Dude.. he has one millionaire that started backing him in the last few months.

One he just got compared to the dozens between Obama and Romney. Not to mention Romney has 200 - 400 million in assets and Ron Paul has around 4 millions. Which one do you think made their money honestly? The Dr. with 4 million well into his 70's or the advisor with 400 million in his 60's?

You need to open your eyes man.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Hardstepah
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i think i am already done here, you can't answer a simple question without trying to use your high school debate team tactics. you don't post a thread saying "i'm voting for so and so because" and go on the attack when somebody voting for a different candidate challenges your moot points. good luck, with this debate though, you seem to need it.

It's not an issue to me about his flip flops because what he flip flopped on is not how I vote. I vote for someone who has reasonable economic plans, not proven failed ones. Ones that will get pass congress, and ones that actually have a budget! That's Mitt Romney. I really don't care about RomneyCare or his other flip flops because I don't care about them... You may care about them, but I don't. You can call me ignorant I call it having priorities straight. I don't like any of the candidates up there 100% but I am so far away from Obama and Ron Paul it's not even funny.

I actually admire Romney for his business skills and his smarts!



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Bandwagon voting. Honestly, if your candidates were originally Huntsman, than you switched to Cain, than switched to Santorum, THAN switched to Romney... maybe you shouldn't be voting at all.


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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Dude.. he has one millionaire that started backing him in the last few months.

One he just got compared to the dozens between Obama and Romney. Not to mention Romney has 200 - 400 million in assets and Ron Paul has around 4 millions. Which one do you think made their money honestly? The Dr. with 4 million well into his 70's or the advisor with 400 million in his 60's?

You need to open your eyes man.


OK...I think the most powerful company Romney has started was....Staples....



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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He flip flops! Do you know what that means? It means those plans he has that you think are reasonable.. he may just trash that and go with something you are opposed to.

What exactly are these economic plans that have you certain enough to vote for this walking corporate entity?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Do you know anything about this guy you are about to vote for? All the really bad stuff he has done to businesses and how he has cost thousands of jobs to turn a quick profit for Baine Capital? He is good at one thing: cutting quality and jobs for a quick buck.

You need to do a little research on his "business skills."
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit
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Honestly, if your candidates were originally Huntsman, than you switched to Cain, than switched to Santorum, THAN switched to Romney... maybe you shouldn't be voting at all.



Here comes the last straw.... I shouldn't vote at all! Well thanks a lot guys! I really love this America that we live in today...People telling me who I should vote for. No. Don't try to spin what you meant to say. I understand





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