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Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about


And let's just get that on record.

That's you, saying "Corporate America is what MADE America great SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america."

Then now, here you are saying that Corporatism is bad.




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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LOLOL After this last post I'm done LOLOLOL

Seriously. ~Face Palm~

Each state has the ability to regulate any company that runs on its soils. We do not need the Fed Gov to do this. I can't take any more typing. My fingers hurt.

I hope you get your man for president because only 2 things can come from it.

#1 Romney does a great job and every things is awesome


#2 Romney is just 4 more years of Obama, screws up the country even farther and I can say I told you so.

Its a win win situation for me



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
You are Pro-Corporation, you told me that. Now you are saying that we need government to stop Corporatism.

Which is it, bud?

You are so misguided but, eventually, the truth will come out even in you.



You are anti-establishment and anti-government. You can't have it both ways either. It was a political attack to make me look like a liberal I promise you I am not. Check my history, I just know that We need government policies to help protect us. Can you not read??



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by MrRichards
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Each state has the ability to regulate any company that runs on its soils. We do not need the Fed Gov to do this. I can't take any more typing. My fingers hurt.


So what if one state does and one state doesn't?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal

Then now, here you are saying that Corporatism is bad.



Your saying corporatism is bad, I am arguing against the fact because I believe we do not live in a corporatism society. I am asking how eliminating the federal government will save us from the so called evil corporations
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal

Then now, here you are saying that Corporatism is bad.



Your saying corporatism is bad, I am arguing against the fact because I believe we do not live in a corporatism society.


Well whether you believe it or not, here you go.

endthelie.com...

Nah...government isn't intrinsically linked to Corporations at all! LOL.

Your argument is invalid if you are incorrect to start with.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal.

Your argument is invalid if you are incorrect to start with.



Let me repeat myself: HOW WILL ELIMINATING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROTECT US FROM EVIL CORPORATIONS? wouldn't that entice them to control the states more? Did you know that some states depend entirely on corporations? Like Nevada and Las Vegas Casinos? Or Hawaii and tourist/hotel industry?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Can you please not ask me any more questions lol You made me break my word of LAST POST.

Then that is that states right. Obviously then the people of that state do not care. That is there right as well. You are now showing that you are a democrat and not a Republican....... You are sounding like the candidate that you are supporting.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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How can so many be so naive as to think we really have a choice in the matter. I used to think voting made a difference, that WE the people were choosing our own paths for this country.

It took me many decades to realize that when you give people the ability to make politics their life long career, it will be just like any other elite portion of society.

Are we to think it mere coincidence that the families that have been in control for hundreds if not thousands of years are still in control? Albeit, often from the shadows...

They put these puppets up that read off teleprompters so the masses are reassured.

Hope, Change, Forward, whatever new catch slogan they come up with, then brainwash the masses with....makes me want to vomit.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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If our founding fathers saw the sorry state this country is currently in, they would never stop stabbing each other in the throats with their quills



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by MrRichards
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Can you please not ask me any more questions lol You made me break my word of LAST POST.

Then that is that states right. Obviously then the people of that state do not care.
if the people don't care isn't that promoting corporatism? even if they don't care, you are making a very weak point and you still have not explained how eliminating the federal government will stop corporations from influencing policy. I will be waiting, but I won't hold my breath for a logical response.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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LOL, we couldn't privatize social security and Amtrak because of 9/11? That's rich. (Just like Playboy Romney, come to think of it........)

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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HI everyone, long time lurker from norway here, just registered a couple of days ago.
First thing, i hate that my first post on this forum will be in such a negative tone, but i think it is completly insane that some people in this thread think that military actions against iran is a good thing, and the way those people stand firmly behind their beliefs is sickening, this is why america is hated so much around the world, doing wtf they want and act like the worlds biggest bully, and u call rp politics isolationism,u have been isolated for years bevause of your foreign policies. sorry for all the typos, hope i guys understand everything, i think rp is a breath of fresh air, and for the sake of world peace, and for the sake of Maybe Your respect around the world will again be at a normal point.. Sorry again for all the typos, and btw i dont agree with all of rp policies, i believe for the sake of world peace and mutual respect, you should give the man a try.
Hope i understand what i mean.
Best wishes



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Would like to, Strongly believes yeah yeah.
how many of those policies do you think he will follow through with.

Just like all the politician's full of crap. If I was American i would have to vote RP because he has good ideas for foreign policy.

I know i am British but the American foreign foreign policy scare's the # out of me. I dont want to end up in WWIII due to nut job Presidents. If your President decides to go to war based on lies then that can directly effect me and mine.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by RobinGraves
HI everyone, long time lurker from norway here, just registered a couple of days ago.
First thing, i hate that my first post on this forum will be in such a negative tone, but i think it is completly insane that some people in this thread think that military actions against iran is a good thing, and the way those people stand firmly behind their beliefs is sickening, this is why america is hated so much around the world, doing wtf they want and act like the worlds biggest bully, and u call rp politics isolationism,u have been isolated for years bevause of your foreign policies. sorry for all the typos, hope i guys understand everything, i think rp is a breath of fresh air, and for the sake of world peace, and for the sake of Maybe Your respect around the world will again be at a normal point.. Sorry again for all the typos, and btw i dont agree with all of rp policies, i believe for the sake of world peace and mutual respect, you should give the man a try.
Hope i understand what i mean.
Best wishes


You could have just said I don't agree with your foreign policy stance and why. NO need to be spreading your ron paul crap around on this thread there is plenty here and elsewhere to do that. Just for future notice



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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You asked me more questions when I asked you not to.......

I did tell you how and you disagreed. You are now looking for me to agree with you. Wont happen.

You are clearly upset and need to take some time from this thread to cool off.

Take your time... We will understand.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by MrRichards
Thats when the states take over and we the people get to throw in or out who we see fit. Yes we can do that now with states but the Fed Gov can over rule sates laws. Git rid of them and they can't.


Why can't we throw out who we see fit now? And how would that change with the states in charge? The country would be Balkanized and multinational corporations would have even more power to push us around.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by MrRichards
You asked me more questions when I asked you not to.......

I did tell you how and you disagreed. You are now looking for me to agree with you. Wont happen.

You are clearly upset and need to take some time from this thread to cool off.

Take your time... We will understand.



You just said states will handle it then I asked the question again because that's a stupid useless answer that needs a lot more meat on it. You keep coming back here saying you will leave, because you don't want to answer the question
But you are proving my point that Ron Paul people cannot answer this very simple question about How eliminating the federal reserve will stop corporate take over if in fact that has happened. If you cannot answer the questions, stop promoting stupid answers. It's alright to say I don't know, in fact I will give you a star if you say that because I have never heard that from a ron paul supporter!



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by libertytoall


It shouldn't exist.. Why do you think all production is in countries where these regulations don't exist?
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This is also in the wrong context. He was defending the clean air act and defending Ron Paul as President. If Ron Paul does everything he claims to, it won't exist under him, so it was pointless to defend it....But I do believe we need some regulations in that area as well. Maybe a much much much smaller EPA.


The EPA says the air you breathe out of your mouth is a pollutant.. Can we please do away with this evil monster bureaucratic dictator? Do you really want to be taxed for exhaling?? Anyone who doesn't see the utter failure of big government is a delusional person with the IQ of a peanut.



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