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Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
I didn't say a word about Ron Paul in my post, you simply installed that in defensive posture. Which proves to me what kind of shill you are. Paid, or unpaid, you've been bought.

If you think for a second that Corporate America has your best interests at heart, you my friend are completely lost.

I recommend a Ban for you, on account of shilling/trolling.

Peace.


Oh, PS, if you think Communism is akin to Libertarianism (or for that matter, Republicanism), you are completely insane.
edit on 7-5-2012 by fourthmeal because: Communism, are you crazy?

What is the point you are trying to make then. Do you support Ron Paul? Do you support Obama?? Come on you can admit it without the name calling.


I didn't call you anything you haven't proven to be, so stop posturing or pandering.

I'm going to lay the truth down to you, just like Immortal Technique.

I support the American way. I support Liberty. I support equal rights and freedom for every person. I support a society without parts of government subverting its own people, I'm looking at you CIA with your drug farms in Peruvian soil, poppy fields in Afghanistan, etc. I support the right to keep and bears arms, without restriction. I support a free media, one without political power as it is currently. Support GMO-free foods, and Monsanto-driven politics and laws. I support the local farmer and co-op movements. I support suppressed free-energy scientists, who mysteriously die or get raided by the FBI, at the behest of the corporate greed of oil companies. I support a military that defends the country of all enemies, foreign AND Domestic, and who uphold the Constitution. I support the people that made this country great, not the Corporations that continue to tear it down by instituting cheap or slave-like labor factories in other countries instead of here. I support Unions because they have a right to unionize, and I support the independent worker because they too also have a right to work as they choose. I support supply and demand, unfettered by corporate greed that has gone to far. I support those who try to teach the public of the Truth of America, not the historical re-written version that suits the whim of our holders and what revisionist history they want us to believe. I support elections that are held without fraud, without Diebold machines that seek to elect the puppet that the Powers that be want.

I will get what I want. What I want is what most of Americans want. You may think that Romney won the popular vote, but you'd be dead wrong. You are also easily deceived if you think Romney has your best interests at heart. He has no history of that, so why would he start when he was the leader of the "free" world?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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By Wars of Aggression I mean Wars that we have Created to adhere to the Globalist Play Book .

Read Zbigniew Brzezinski's Books .

He laid it out and We have been dancing to the tune of these Globalists .

And by Globalist I speak to the Cabal of Thieves and War Mongers that rule by edict .

These people did Not attack us they just refused to tow the Amerikan Line

Did I Forget to mention LIBERTY ?????????????

I use to enjoy the Limited amount I had until it was taken away by the machinations of these very people !

So a vote for anyone who supports the illegal legislation that Took My LIBERTIES ...

And Probably Wants More of of My LIBERTY ??????????

That's Insane .



Wars are still aggressive, and if your wars are not aggressive, you are still doing it wrong. "War of aggression" is still nothing more than an emotive redundancy. Nothing you said here changes that at all.

If you find any legislation to be "illegal" (isn't that an oxymoron?) simply ignore it. Only by resisting will you ever force them to prove it's legality. Complaining, using redundancies, or any other action short of a direct challenge will accomplish exactly nothing.

I have no need to read Brzezinski. He was an idiot in the 70's, he was an idiot in the eighties, and he never improved with age. If he doesn't like me saying that, he can call me and we'll discuss matters.

If anyone can take your liberty away, it was not real liberty to begin with. Only a free man would know that, though. See my second paragraph above for clarification.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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How about you answer MY questions?

Or rather, provide any sort of defense that is your own intelligence at work?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
If (and that’s a BIG ‘IF’) he did we’d be ripe for the picking because he’d have already reduced our ability to defend ourselves. Anybody could just come take what we’d built.





And you claim to have served in combat with that kind of ignorance? Please. I'd bet my money that you're just a typical neo-con internet couch hawk, Missy. Countries with nukes don't get invaded, please give me an example of one that has. ESPECIALLY one with enough nukes to wipe out life on earth cruising around the oceans in unknown locations. When was the last time a country with nukes was invaded? Also, how would having all of our troops HERE, ready to defend this nation instead of guarding China's resources, invite some kind of invasion?
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal

Originally posted by tw0330
One quick note here, please take a quick look HERE

You will see past posts of jjf3rd77 90% of his posts are political, with his first post being in January.

This points to a paid shill. All of his arguments seem to be scripted.

There needs to be a way to report these people if they do not have legit answers to the questions. Every single thread he has been in, he looks to cause problems.


Acknowledged.

But even Shills have a heart and soul, and can make a decision within themselves that may make a difference.

Also, the Truth stands on its own, and requires no propping-up.


From what I've read the people chosen to become paid posters don't have an opinion either way. They don't really care so they just push the agenda they're paid to. Mostly people that know nothing about politics and only care about football or whatever. Their brains are incapable of understanding the subject or the importance of the subject so they read off some script most of the time.

Of course I've only read about this from people coming out and saying they have either been paid to post or know someone that was. So that's not really much to go on but it does make sense how these people just wouldn't care. It's not possible for them to care.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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A vote for Romney is a vote wasted. You are ignorant in believing that a vote for the Vatican puppet will change anything in this country. Every single president has been related to the very same King John of the Magna Carta and Treaty of 1213. Romney is 10th cousins with Bush and Obama. Could you say tool? Wake up brother, every single president in history has made promises and fulfills none. You have too much pride in your country. Pride goeth before a fall.

Romney is funded by the same banks that are con trolling the Federal Reserve. Goldman Sachs has a sex trafficking fund?
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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I quit reading after the 2nd point.

It was enough for me to reject the rest of the post. Those 2 matters are what's most important to me. And why I support my candidate.

And why I'll support Barack Obama before I support Mit Romney.

You might enjoy paying $3.50+ for milk and $4+ for gas ... but not me. And the inflation that causes these prices to rise will NEVER go down unless we quit inflating the price of everything with the cost of our wars.

Well, that and all the death and destruction and such that we don't really (unless you're a troop on the front line) see from wars back here in the United States.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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I don't agree with your views, but I respect that you are supporting someone because they agree with your own personal beliefs.

People need to realize that there is no "right" or "wrong" in politics...we should all support the person that closely matches are own beliefs. We shouldn't tell others that they are "wrong" or "stupid" or "clueless" or a "traitor" because they personally support someone else.

We all have our own opinions and preferences...we all think we know what would be best for the country...and we all support the candidate that we do because we honestly do think that is the best course for the country...not because we are traitors and want to destroy the country.

I support Obama...but I respect anyones individual support for their candidate as long as they don't go further and claim their choice is the "only" choice.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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I understand this post might get banned, but as soon as you said that Iran shouldn't possess a nuclear weapon and believes in a strong military, I stopped reading right there. Sure, it's okay to have a strong military but what the ##SNIP## gives the US the right to go and rape other countries for resources and when those countries try to fight back they are labeled HURRR URRF TERRERRISTS YEE-HAW LETS NUKE 'EM! Iran has a past, and so does the US. Get over it, we don't need another chicken-hawk in office going to war just so we can have a few drops of oil.
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by tw0330
One quick note here, please take a quick look HERE

You will see past posts of jjf3rd77 90% of his posts are political, with his first post being in January.

This points to a paid shill. All of his arguments seem to be scripted.

There needs to be a way to report these people if they do not have legit answers to the questions. Every single thread he has been in, he looks to cause problems.


That's not really fair to call him a paid shill because he might be passionate about something you disagree with. I debated with him (or her) a bit and I disagree but that is that.

I stated it before, I don't agree with everything in Dr. Paul's platform but I do agree with the foundation and the fundamentals...aka...The Constitution.

I fear that Romney is too much of a Corporatist and will betray the average citizen in favor of his criminal friends and cronies. That is based on what I see and hear. Do I know that for sure...nope. It's just what I deduce from the information I have. Cutting taxes on the wealthy and big corporations and removing regulations just tilts the table even more and rigs the game in favor of those that are already wealthy and further up the ladder.

I actually think all the candidates suck in one way or another.

I don't trust the POTUS to give him a second term where he will be able to be "more flexible".
I don't trust Romney to re-instate the American Dream and look out for the middle class.
I don't think Ron Paul will be able to get much accomplished except use a veto pen.,,it would be nice, but I seriously doubt it.

The real devil is Congress. it needs to be cleared out and all incumbents removed. There needs to be a bi-partisan blend of all parties...Repubs, Dems, Libertarians, Independents, Green...etc. This gives a broader and more balanced representation of the overall population. We cannot continue to have gridlock and stalemate...nothing gets accomplished and yet we continue to spend money like maniacs.

We have to step back, take a hard look at who is supporting the candidates and why. No one is spending millions or billions on a particular candidate if they don't feel they are going to get a return on that investment. Use some critical thinking and ask yourself where your own personal interests lie. If you are wealthy and successful...then I am sure that supporting Romney is in your best interest. If you are poor or are in a declining state of living standards, then the POTUS might be for you. I choose neither of those, I choose small Government and big freedom...but that is just my opinion.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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"would like" as found in your piece above from MittRomney.com is but one aspect of typical campaign promises that often go unfulfilled. With that said, the Republicans are dead set at trying to remove President Obama, a Democrat, from Office and as such are making a lot of those "would like" promises.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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The comments were between me and you...... Have I ever attacked you before? Have I ever replied to any of your posts before? No? Ok then.

Don't put me in a category with the rest.

Thats is what this site is about. Denying ignorance. Every one that posts any thing on this site gets attacked and treated like a terrorist. The whole point is to get you to see thru the eyes of others and get you to change your mind. Which maybe unintentionally is what this thread is doing to others.

Ron Paul supporters (not all) see your stance as being highly ignorant because you are ignoring any thing bad or wrong about Mitt Romney. We feel that you are wrong in your views and as ATSers thats what we do. Deny ignorance.

So if you are going to post like this on subjects like this than you need to understand that you put your self up for attack.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about
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I don't know ONE Ron Paul supporter that is against capitalism....... Crony capitalism but not good old fashion real capitalism.

And you Obviously know NOTHING about Ron Paul's stances if you can associate them with communism. How does giving the states back their rights and taking the power from the FED have anything to do with communism.

Stop telling people they don't know what they are talking about..... Unless you are including your self.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by MrRichards
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The comments were between me and you...... Have I ever attacked you before? Have I ever replied to any of your posts before? No? Ok then.

Don't put me in a category with the rest.

Thats is what this site is about. Denying ignorance. Every one that posts any thing on this site gets attacked and treated like a terrorist. The whole point is to get you to see thru the eyes of others and get you to change your mind. Which maybe unintentionally is what this thread is doing to others.

Ron Paul supporters (not all) see your stance as being highly ignorant because you are ignoring any thing bad or wrong about Mitt Romney. We feel that you are wrong in your views and as ATSers thats what we do. Deny ignorance.

So if you are going to post like this on subjects like this than you need to understand that you put your self up for attack.


So then whats the point? They wanted to see why I am voting for Mitt Romney after thousands of ppl asking me this question I finally gave in and posted the reasons, and now, they cannot see the good points in Romney's plans they just put their fingers in their ears and say lalalalalalala..... They are not denying ignorance they are being ignorant because they refuse whole heatedly to hear anything the opposition has to say!

I ignore the Romney attacks because most if not all of the attacks are taken out of context and its not my job to defend the person, just to vote for him and state the reasons why I am!



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by snusfanatic
I'm voting for Mitt Romney so we don't become Greece. Regardless of what he's done in the past, he's going to be under the gun as President. He has made so many promises, he'll have to be the guy he claims to be, whether he likes it or not. Plus, come on, you don't become that rich in the world of private equity without knowing how the economy works.


We avoided becoming Greece... Mitt Romney's experience will cater to the hostile takeover,
corporatist faction which has already done America so much "good", look who the banks are
investing,,, cough cough, Mitt...




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