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Why I chose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul and Barack Huessein Obama II

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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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To be frank, when was the last time a President did what they said they were going to do during their campaign?
You honestly think Mittens is any different? If anything, he's even more willing to "just tell us what we want to hear," as he is quite infamous for flip-flopping, is he not?

In short, I entirely agree with the reasons you've listed. However, I do not believe he intends to actually do these things. He just wants you to think he's your savior, just like Obama did, and the one before him, and the one before him, and... apparently it's working. Deny ignorance, my friend.


Cheers




posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Nostalgic
reply to post by jjf3rd77
 


To be frank, when was the last time a President did what they said they were going to do during their campaign?
You honestly think Mittens is any different?

He just wants you to think he's your savior, just like Obama did, and the one before him, and the one before him, and... apparently it's working. Deny ignorance, my friend.


Cheers


So? I don't think Romney is a savior, I just want to give him a chance to try and fix the mess Obama has left us in because I think he feels deeply for the state the country is in. You can hear it in his speeches. So as you say no President is any different than the other what makes you think your choice for President will be different? Just because YOU think he is? I'm guessing it's Ron Paul here.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".

The sooner you learn this, the sooner we can all put this travesty that is Mitt behind us.

You say he is American. Sure, ok. I say he is Corporate America.

He votes the way his corporate sponsors want him to. He's said it with his own words, several times. His voting record backs this statement up. He will vote whichever way his handlers want him to vote.

Prove me wrong.




Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by sonnny1
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Kudos to you,for showing your support actually.

ATS has become the Ron Paul-Obama show anyways,and the kool-aid is flowing out both respective camps.

I wont vote for Romney though.He has HIS best interests at heart. Like ANY good businessman. Just remember that when you vote for him.

Peace


I agree with you on the first part of your post second part, I believe Mitt Romney believes in America and since he is American that is his best interest. So of course, he has his best interests at heart! Which is America!
edit on 6-5-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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I agree you want socialism move to Moscow, the snow has melted, it is starting to turn green again...the KGB is out in full force...just don't drink the tea ... (forgot to mention it is miserable expensive to live in Russia, you think its bad in the US, then you do not know anything)...

Sniper



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Also, why would I vote for a guy who's official campaign in Nevada was caught red-handed committing fraud, passing out fake slates?

Nevada also is investigating vote-flipping algorithm methods that very likely have been used in the voting booths. Mitt Romney's campaign was directly affected thanks to that. Again, we likely have a campaign here that has committed fraud on the people. Nevada and others will soon know the truth.

I will know the truth.

Maybe one day, YOU will too.

The only thing you and I agree on is that Obama needs to go.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Who cares what Romney believes in. Don't you think we have heard all of these qualities before out of the very same candidates that, time after time, lie and then screw us? He is no different. He is a wealthy fat cat awho is only interested in himself and his beliefs in policies are all lies, just like 100% of the other elected officials who have been in office. He won't talk with a silver tongue like Obama did and cannot compare, other than they are both evil and work for the bankers so he really has not TRUE shot against Ron Paul who has spent many years not only making promises, but living up to them and following through consistently. Mitt Romney is a weak choice and is just another one of the same cooked dinners we have always had. He has already shown his true colors by trying to illegally take Ron Paul out and also by spreading lies and paying people 25.00 an hour to try to trick Rn Paul workers into making mistakes. This to me does not sound like a person for the people. This just sounds like another corrupt politician who wants to win for himself. It's his actions we now look at, who cares what they say, it's all lies anyway.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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The guy got rich off the misery of others. He also flip flops to appeal to a specific voter base.

Anyone who actually shows some support for Romney needs to get their head out of the sand. This is mind boggling to say the least.

I can understand not voting for Paul or Obama, but Romney??
edit on 7-5-2012 by SeventhSeal because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Phenomium
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Who cares what Romney believes in. Don't you think we have heard all of these qualities before out of the very same candidates that, time after time, lie and then screw us? He is no different. He is a wealthy fat cat awho is only interested in himself and his beliefs in policies are all lies, just like 100% of the other elected officials who have been in office. He won't talk with a silver tongue like Obama did and cannot compare, other than they are both evil and work for the bankers so he really has not TRUE shot against Ron Paul who has spent many years not only making promises, but living up to them and following through consistently. Mitt Romney is a weak choice and is just another one of the same cooked dinners we have always had. He has already shown his true colors by trying to illegally take Ron Paul out and also by spreading lies and paying people 25.00 an hour to try to trick Rn Paul workers into making mistakes. This to me does not sound like a person for the people. This just sounds like another corrupt politician who wants to win for himself. It's his actions we now look at, who cares what they say, it's all lies anyway.


Hey that's politics, if you can't handle it don't become involved... Woah is you boo hoo hoo. Tell me again which policies Ron Paul has gotten passed??? NONE!



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Ron Paul WILL NOT get elected (period)...are you RP supporters loony, vote for him all you want but he does not stand a chance in hell (at least this time around) of getting elected. The majority of America does not like nor want him...(I personally like somethings but dislike other things)...

To like 100% of anything one candidate says makes you a follower or sheep being herded around...its like a wife, do any of you (hetero's) like everything about your wife...? I like my wife's tits, my neighbors wife's arse and my buddies wife's face... the honeymoon with RP will end sooner than later...

BTW - I am against Obama (not 100% but close to) and do not want him reelected.

Sniper



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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Gee. I seem to remember Obama saying lot's of stuff like that too. He is pulling your leg. I know, I live in Mass and he was once our Governor. He gave us Romney care, which is essentially a state sized Obama care. He will do none of those things. Romney is as "big Government" as Obama is. They are two side of the same coin. Believe him at your own peril. If either he or Obama are elected, I would look into which country you want to move to. Before the curtain closes...



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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To the OP
It's almost futile to have bullet points on what you support about Romney
Because Romney will support something else as fast as the season changes.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about


Actually production made America great. The steel and car industry. Working for a honest days pay. Building things here. Small business made America great. Corporate America is the reason my pizza tastes like cardboard. Corporate American is the reason we use slave labor in Asia to build our technology. Corporate American only cares about cutting corners and screwing the consumer. Corporate American is why there are no more mom and pop shops. Corporate America is the reason we don't make things here anymore. Corporate America is the reason why we have up to 20% unemployment in this country. Corporate America is the reason why when I call support I talk to an Indian that doesn't even speak English. Corporate America is the reason why Mitt Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has absolutely no clue how the average America lives.

These people don't give a **** about you. They don't care about you, this country or anything other than profit. They want money so they can turn around and buy politians like Romney so that they can push an agenda that only serves them and make more profit through screwing the little guy. More money more power more control. Let's go bale out GM so they can go make a Cadillac in China. Let's go bale out big banks so they can turn around and use that money to buy up all the smaller banks. You no choice in this country under this system. You can't even eat without monsanto shoving their garbage down your throat.

F*** Corporate America.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about


I didn't say a word about Ron Paul in my post, you simply installed that in defensive posture. Which proves to me what kind of shill you are. Paid, or unpaid, you've been bought.

If you think for a second that Corporate America has your best interests at heart, you my friend are completely lost.

I recommend a Ban for you, on account of shilling/trolling.

Peace.


Oh, PS, if you think Communism is akin to Libertarianism (or for that matter, Republicanism), you are completely insane.
edit on 7-5-2012 by fourthmeal because: Communism, are you crazy?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Jagermeister

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about


Actually production made America great. The steel and car industry. Working for a honest days pay. Building things here. Small business made America great. Corporate America is the reason my pizza tastes like cardboard. Corporate American is the reason we use slave labor in Asia to build our technology. Corporate American only cares about cutting corners and screwing the consumer. Corporate American is why there are no more mom and pop shops. Corporate America is the reason we don't make things here anymore. Corporate America is the reason why we have up to 20% unemployment in this country. Corporate America is the reason why when I call support I talk to an Indian that doesn't even speak English. Corporate America is the reason why Mitt Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has absolutely no clue how the average America lives.

These people don't give a **** about you. They don't care about you, this country or anything other than profit. They want money so they can turn around and buy politians like Romney so that they can push an agenda that only serves them and make more profit through screwing the little guy. More money more power more control. Let's go bale out GM so they can go make a Cadillac in China. Let's go bale out big banks so they can turn around and use that money to buy up all the smaller banks. You no choice in this country under this system. You can't even eat without monsanto shoving their garbage down your throat.

F*** Corporate America.


Wow and what is your solution to the problem??? I would like to know how a libertarian policy which is very pro-corporation. will make everything all better?



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
I didn't say a word about Ron Paul in my post, you simply installed that in defensive posture. Which proves to me what kind of shill you are. Paid, or unpaid, you've been bought.

If you think for a second that Corporate America has your best interests at heart, you my friend are completely lost.

I recommend a Ban for you, on account of shilling/trolling.

Peace.


Oh, PS, if you think Communism is akin to Libertarianism (or for that matter, Republicanism), you are completely insane.
edit on 7-5-2012 by fourthmeal because: Communism, are you crazy?

What is the point you are trying to make then. Do you support Ron Paul? Do you support Obama?? Come on you can admit it without the name calling.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Libertarian view on Corporate America is simple:

Take Corporations out of politics. The two are currently intrinsically related. Many members of the Legislative branch are attached to corporations in one form or another, and answer to them, not the people that elected them.

Making the laws so it suits corporations better than the common company, that's what we're talking about here. Libertarian view is to stop government regulations that infringe upon companies, putting corporations and business large and small on equal footing.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Jagermeister

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by fourthmeal
Mitt Romney believes in CORPORATE America, not America "We the People".



Prove you wrong? I think you meant. We the People of ATS. And frankly some of Ron Paul's stances or your own stances about how a libertarian society would work sounds an awful lot like communism to me. So does saying, "we the people." as if implying that most Americans hate capitalism and corporations. Wake up call! Corporate America is what MADE America great. SO yes. I will vote for Corporate america. Since that is what the working/middle class is. Jeez some of you people honestly don't know what you are talking about


Actually production made America great. The steel and car industry. Working for a honest days pay. Building things here. Small business made America great. Corporate America is the reason my pizza tastes like cardboard. Corporate American is the reason we use slave labor in Asia to build our technology. Corporate American only cares about cutting corners and screwing the consumer. Corporate American is why there are no more mom and pop shops. Corporate America is the reason we don't make things here anymore. Corporate America is the reason why we have up to 20% unemployment in this country. Corporate America is the reason why when I call support I talk to an Indian that doesn't even speak English. Corporate America is the reason why Mitt Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has absolutely no clue how the average America lives.

These people don't give a **** about you. They don't care about you, this country or anything other than profit. They want money so they can turn around and buy politians like Romney so that they can push an agenda that only serves them and make more profit through screwing the little guy. More money more power more control. Let's go bale out GM so they can go make a Cadillac in China. Let's go bale out big banks so they can turn around and use that money to buy up all the smaller banks. You no choice in this country under this system. You can't even eat without monsanto shoving their garbage down your throat.

F*** Corporate America.


Wow and what is your solution to the problem??? I would like to know how a libertarian policy which is very pro-corporation. will make everything all better?


I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says and it is not my job to defend every statement that comes out of the man's mouth, but that doesn't mean I go vote for someone that I know will do absolutely nothing but continue the same old same old. Would I rather vote for the perfect politian that never lies, always supports what I'm thinking, etc. etc? Of course, but that's never going to happen. As I said we have no choice in this system. It's either take a chance on Paul or just continue with the same old garbage for another 4 years.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
Libertarian view on Corporate America is simple:

Take Corporations out of politics. The two are currently intrinsically related. Many members of the Legislative branch are attached to corporations in one form or another, and answer to them, not the people that elected them.

Making the laws so it suits corporations better than the common company, that's what we're talking about here. Libertarian view is to stop government regulations that infringe upon companies, putting corporations and business large and small on equal footing.




So you are for Ron Paul! Got it. Well, that's not really going to stop the process that you seem to hate so much, in fact, its probably going to make things worse. Which is why I understand why we need liberal policies like government oversight on corporations and unions and workers benefits and stuff like that which wouldn't exist under pure libertarianism which will never happen anyway. So keep fighting the loosing battle if you want. I'm done with ti.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jagermeister
It's either take a chance on Paul or just continue with the same old garbage for another 4 years.


That's what you believe and I will take a chance on Mitt Romney. You never explain how Ron Paul's pro-corporation policies will stop corporations from "controlling everything" Which I dont believe they do.




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