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Sarkozy loses election

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Funny fact is that earlier, during the socialist primaries, Sarkozy was expected to lose against any of the contenders.
Sarkozy himself didn't believe he would be re-elected. He stated several times that he would stay in power for 5 years then go "make cash (doing conferences) like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair".

France has 2 parliamentary bodies, the Sénat and the Parlement. Ever since the beginning of the 5th republic (1958) the right has always had the Sénat. They lost it to the socialists for the first time under Sarkozy rule.
Add to that fact that socialists rule the regions, check the results from the 2010 elections :
fr.wikipedia.org...:France_regions_political_ma p_03_2010-fr.png

Sarkozy's party results have been going from bad to worse. Actually they never been that bad before.
The signs were there for all to read.

But what will change ? Mostly nothing. The main problem was that since Sarkozy got wasted in the regions elections, he went to war against them for funding and budgets. A lot of stuff became really idiotic in the way the country was led. So things will go more smooth from now on regarding to that.

Will it change something for europe ? Nothing here either.
When france voted no to the euro referendum, sarkozy and hollande were both defending the yes.

The only thing that really changed is when a president (Sarkozy) said that there is no shame in casting a vote for the far right.
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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In Greece, nobody won their election.
With that and France; The Euro will tank this week



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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500/600 ... whatever ... and the INSEE is a state controlled agency responsible every month for falsifying the inflation statistics.

In all this mess there is only one fact that matters to me.
The fact that right after beeing elected, Sarkozy went to a meeting of the euro finance ministers and told them that he wouldnt comply to the 3% debt rule. And he told them they should do the same ... All that before the crisis hit.

Let me repeat that : he said screw the debt before the crisis hit.

So he could give tax gifts to his rich buddies.

If you like numbers that much, can you sum up for me the amount of tax evasion thru tax havens ?

He invented around 40 new taxes on the poor, and even to the last moment. He scheduled a VAT increase for after his loss so that businesses would pay less taxes still.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Is so funny to hear the media call Hollande the 'most powerful person in the Eurozone'.
When the reason he is in power is because the Eurozone is in debt to more powerful people.

It is clear that Hollande is just like the rest, if he was genuine he would be telling the bankers to get lost and not committing to their scam with 'tough economic measures'.

What a joke.
No one has an obligation to pay back these debts.
Yet they have convinced us all it is normal and what we need to do.

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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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I am shocked that sarkzy lost even after the false flag whch killed three jewish children, apparently the problem, reaction, solution anti-terroism tactics didn't help, and the media described hollande as a far left and sarkozy as only center right, but now the media is switchibg lingo and callng hollande center left. Still, a socialist, this sounds like obamanation all over again. Looks like franc has some interesting politics for a change. Kep an eye out.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Incumbent loses election.

I predict this will be a huge theme in 2012......ehhmmmm Obama?



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Under Sarkozy: Bankers gettin' paid.
Under the new Socialists: Bankers gettin' paid.

Nothing to see here, move along...



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
Under Sarkozy: Bankers gettin' paid.
Under the new Socialists: Bankers gettin' paid.

Nothing to see here, move along...
Exactly.
The veil of democracy is very thin indeed.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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www.ft.com...

Rich people looking to move wow 75% tax increases.

Yeah doesn't look to good for france.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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I always find it funny how American's comment on the politics of other countries having never been there. They get all butthurt when foreigners comment on American politics around here. Makes me laugh. I don't think most Americans commenting understand European politics anyway.

It's interesting to see this-I doubt it will make much difference, but it's interesting nonetheless. I was talking with a friend in Spain the other day and we both noted how much anti-German sentiment there seems to be in Europe these days. The Germans are running the show and almost every European I've spoken with resents this. They call it the "EU" and really they should just call it the "GU" since the Germans have all the money and call most of the shots.

www.csmonitor.com...

The very fact this guy said he was calling Merkel tonight should tell you that. So, in the end this guy really doesn't that much unless he is brave enough to stand up to the Austerity goons out of Germany. I doubt it. No one is willing to do that.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Hi Ill,
I am sad that you aced me out here on a suspicion of defeat.
I waited till it was official before posting actual defeat.
Actually you are much more accomplished and worthy.
No matter this a VERY important event. Good job!
Can you get me a couple flags, some stars?? LOL
ljb



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Have you ever seen the youtube video "Charlie the Unicorn"? Kinda reminds me about whats about to happen. Charlie is Promised this magical farry land, and in the end he get trapped and his Kidney taken from him....

Sheep lead to the slaughter!




posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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Hollande wants to re-negotiate the EU-fiscal-pact and his "reform" plans are seriously threatening the ESM's, aswell as frances own credit-ratings. This is bad for france and bad for the €urozone, but good for europeans.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by antonia


The very fact this guy said he was calling Merkel tonight should tell you that. So, in the end this guy really doesn't that much unless he is brave enough to stand up to the Austerity goons out of Germany. I doubt it. No one is willing to do that.


Hi ant,
This is a very interesting comment.
What draws you to these thoughts??
many thanks ljb



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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I think his comments are little more than empty promises personally. He's nothing more than your common Neo-liberal.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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"Rich people looking to move wow 75% tax increases.

Yeah doesn't look to good for france."

WOW! that has to be a typo or just hearsay, nobody could honestly be ignorant enough to do such a thing. Does this guy honestly expect the people that make the investments to create new factories and companies that employ people and drive the economy to just stay in France and not move to another country? Looks like Britain and Germany will be getting quite a few new jobs in the near future, something both economies could use. Sure will be an interesting day for France on the stock exchange.



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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I find it funny how anti-German sentiment arises in the PIIGS-states these days when Germany does what they obviously can't or do not want to do... make the freaking numbers work.

I highly dislike the whole €urozone-Project and I think it was doomed from the outset BUT... to whine about ze evil Germans running the show and calling most of the shots, while they (ze evil Germans) also have to pay the biggest chunk for this insane abomination is a bit ridiculous.

We'd change places any time... who wants to step up and pay for us? Anybody? Any time now...
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by ColCurious


We'd change places any time... who wants to step up and pay for us? Anybody? Any time now...
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Hi col,
I may have missed things.
Can you tell me who is the WE'd change places any time FOLKS
thanks ljb

PS I think German after a little review??
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posted on May, 7 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
Under Sarkozy: Bankers gettin' paid.
Under the new Socialists: Bankers gettin' paid.

Nothing to see here, move along...


Hi sil,
No wool over your eyes!
The wool will be over the shoulders of every successful and hopeful.
Other wise it's a curtain. lol
cheers ljb



posted on May, 7 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by antonia
 

I find it funny how anti-German sentiment arises in the PIIGS-states these days when Germany does what they obviously can't or do not want to do... make the freaking numbers work.

I highly dislike the whole €urozone-Project and I think it was doomed from the outset BUT... to whine about ze evil Germans running the show and calling most of the shots, while they (ze evil Germans) also have to pay the biggest chunk for this insane abomination is a bit ridiculous.

We'd change places any time... who wants to step up and pay for us? Anybody? Any time now...
edit on 7-5-2012 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)


You are right. Germany makes it work.France,and its people cant put those in Power,to make it work.
MHO



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