Ron Paul supporters capture majority of Nevada’s national delegates

reply to post by Alien Abduct
If their scams and frauds work and Ron Paul doesn't win, nobody will do anything but complain about it. If you don't believe me ask Al Gore.

Originally posted by hab22
there's only one king I would bow to, and that is King Jesus. He's coming soon to establish a righteous kingdom on the earth, and the meek shall inherit that kingdom.

That's good news, because I am rockin' my meek big time right now, thanks to the scumbag elites robbing me blind.

Originally posted by avatard
Mitt will quit soon and claim it was some BS reason...They will still say that Ron won by default. Then Ron will beat Obama and we can live without the cops giving us a ticket for 44000 stupid reasons.

Donuts aren't cheap dude... I'm quite impressed by Ron Paul right now... I would of never thought... the man's like the juggernaut all he needed was a bit of momentum no nothing seem to be able to stop him...

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
paper tiger

wake me up when he wins a primary

The "paper tiger" has been exposed for the fraud that it is.
Dead people can vote in the "paper tiger" primarys and
when they have this cycle it was always against RP.

It takes a living human being to show up and caucas
and until the GOP establishment learns how to wake
the dead (or clone carbon based life forms), the caucas
process is where real democracy is taking place.

Originally posted by hab22
The RNC lawyer was there to threaten the Ron Paul camp from unbinding the delegates. If the state convention unbinds the delegates, the RNC would rule to unseat all the delegates from the convention. This would not be good for Ron Paul.

The strategy is abstention in the first round. Abstentions have been used in the past. 14 delegates at the RNC in 2008 abstained from voting for McCain. Over 200 supporters of Teddy Roosevelt abstained from voting for Taft in 1912. A bunch of Reagan supporters bound to Gerald Ford in 1976 were willing to abstain, but didnt do so because it wouldn't have made a difference. Ford had the votes he needed.

So YES, abstention is an option. And the 20+ delegates in Nevada who support Ron Paul but are bound to Romney will abstain, making it harder for Romney to meet his quota in round one voting at the Tampa convention.

This is an excellent strategy. The Ron Paul think tank knows exactly what it is doing.

The RNC is desperately trying to hold together a party that is so fractured any major and sudden "attack" like that would literally, imo, destroy the party. How would you feel if they used some obscure legal loophole to unseat every delegate that disagreed with party leadership?

You'd cry out in anger and either form a new party or join a 3rd. The RNC did a good job smoothing over the Tea Party uprising by incorporating Tea Party candidates into the fold.. but they are still incredibly hostile to the main RNC establishment. Drop a nuke on the Pualites and seriously.. imo .. it's good bye Republican Party. It's one thing to hide Paul, mock Paul, insult Paul, ignore Paul. It's quite another for supporters to deal with that and still raise their candidate up and have the RNC smash their work to pieces. There would be no mending the divide.. it would be permanent and absolute.. the Paulites would be lost forever.

Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by Alien Abduct

 

If their scams and frauds work and Ron Paul doesn't win, nobody will do anything but complain about it. If you don't believe me ask Al Gore.

Yeah, but boy if we had a voice huh? Let's hope they don't take the internet, and maybe just maybe we can muster a real voice of opposition!

Turn off you TV's! Netflix, Redbox and similar should more than do it for it!

>> Incorrect. Those delegates can vote for Paul in round 1.

> I hope you are right but I dont quite trust that video.

Rule 38 makes reference to the "Unit Rule" as was pointed out
in the above video. This appears to be release all the delegates
from one state from being bound (from voting as a unit), however
each states know who to get around this rule, they simply have
one unbound delegate in their deligation.

That one unbound delegate will be an establishment insider who will
undoubtedly be voting for Romney. And then the other delegates
could be bound (by thier State rules) to do the same on the 1st
vote (or abstain). Not voting is the only way not to break the rules.
If enough Ron Paul delegate abstain so that Romney does not
win the 1st Vote, then he is toast. The way things are going it
seems TOAST is a very real possiblity.

ab·stain [ əb stáyn ] - not vote: not to vote for or against a proposal
when a vote is held; refrain from something.

I say screw the rules, vote RP on the 1st vote. If the GOP does
not like it they can go straight to hell. Republicans like to play
dirty and they break their own rules all the time. Just remember
the most American thing you can do is to abstain from paying
income taxes, the second most American thing you can do is
join a politicial party and break "the club" rules. F'em.

Originally posted by The_Zomar

Originally posted by bacci0909
it's within their rights to ABSTAIN from the first ballot, and all Ron Paul supporting delegates have agreed to do so

And why would they do that?

Unless it's that they are required to vote for Romney in first round. (most likely depending on state rules)

edit on 6-5-2012 by The_Zomar because: (no reason given)

Yeah that's what I mean.. In some states where the delegates are bound to Romney, the Paul supporting-delegates are talking about abstaining in hopes that it'll go to a 2nd vote, in which event they can then vote for Ronnie

RNC rules of 2012 uses RNC rules of 2010 and the rules from 2010 allow delegates to abstain in their vote.

Drop a nuke on the Pualites and seriously.. imo .. it's good bye Republican Party. It's one thing to hide Paul, mock Paul, insult Paul, ignore Paul. It's quite another for supporters to deal with that and still raise their candidate up and have the RNC smash their work to pieces. There would be no mending the divide.. it would be permanent and absolute.. the Paulites would be lost forever.

I hope the RNC is just that obtuse. It would mean Ron Paul could
walk away and not look back. It would mean a new Third Party and
Ron Paul would be taking 1/3 or more of the GOP leadership and
elected delegates with him. PLEASE, RNC DROP THAT NUKE
and see who gets thier shadow burned into the sidewalk!

I realish the day I can walking on that ghostly image!

Were Ron Paul to form a Third Party it would bring together people
form the right (like those Tea Party folks) and people from the left
(the Occuppy Wall Street crowd). They would find common ground
against both Obama and Romney on too many fronts toname,
NDAA, CISPA, Patriot Act and the list goes on and on.

This would be a movement taking the best of Ron Paul's ideas
but would be limited only by the Constitution. It would attract
those who are concerned about civil rights, who are anti-war,
and who demand the end to corruption and the undue influence
of the money junkies (the 1%) over WE THE PEOPLE (99%).
It would demad the return of Glass-Stegal, the end to torture,
the end to TSA, and full stop to undue influence of lobbists,
and the end to the 1913 institutions (IRS and FED).

It would call for a FULL STOP to governement coruption, period.
It would call for a FULL STOP to odious debt (i.e., derivatives)
It would call for a FULL STOP to every un-Constituion practice!

This would be the end of both the Conservative Fascist Party
and Liberal Facist Party. As Ron Paul has said many, many
times in the past: "Freedom is Popular" so if this 3rd party
is shopping for a name I suggest, the Freedom Party.

Come on you RNC fascist bastards, kick it off.

I dare you, the double dare you!

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0



It's still going to be an uphill battle against all odds, but things continue to get interesting in a very good way.

I honestly don't see why it would be an uphill battle, Paul is absolutely destroying Romney in recent weeks regarding the delegates, it's pretty pathetic actually given the fraud and corruption Paul has had to endure and is still prospering.

According to this Ron Paul has won Nevada, Maine and actually Iowa

www.dailypaul.com...

It had already been determined weeks ago that Ron Paul officially won Iowa with at least half of the delegates going to Paul. This weekend witnessed much of the same as the second half of Iowa's state convention also witnessed the vast majority of available delegate seats having been chosen as Paul's.

All together, of Iowa's 28 available national delegate seats, 23 are known Ron Paul supporters.

Iowans also seated the majority of its alternate delegates as Paul's, cementing a weekend of total Ron Paul supremacy and assuring the fact that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign is truly on its way to making huge waves in Tampa.

Despite the establishment's media desperately attempting to have people believe otherwise, Ron Paul now has a real shot of taking the nomination and stealing victory from the jaws of defeat.

All together, this weekend watched Ron Paul win at least 66 national delegates, in these three states alone.

Originally posted by wasaka

It would demad the return of Glass-Stegal, the end to torture,
the end to TSA, and full stop to undue influence of lobbists,
and the end to the 1913 institutions (IRS and FED).

Of course people would say this about the patriot act and cispa too but in the case of the TSA we still need a backup plan - what would happen if the TSA went poof and someone got a bomb onto a 747 and Boom - Everyone would say Ron Paul caused this to happen - history repeats itself. I'm all for not giving up my rights at the expense of security but there needs to be a way i can have my rights and have security too.

reply to post by JohnPhoenix


Seems that we would just fall back to security levels that were in place before the TSA. With the other measures literally installed/retro-fitted in all commercial aircraft no more box cutters will allow access to the cockpit.

We could already keep the bombs off of 747's. That wasn't the issue that spawned the TSA.

Perspectives from a Progressive:

Just heard NPR this morning -- they covered it. RP wins Florida.

The delegates were talking about the electoral process and if Romney does NOT win it outright in the first line of votes -- then the electoral delegates can vote how they want to.

Not sure WHY Ron Paul is popular with the delegates -- but it looks like this might be a historic first as for a electoral win over the vote (in the Primaries -- George Bush was the first to lose the popular vote but win on delegate count versus Al Gore).

Will the Republicans leaders let the pretend election get that far? Should be pretty interesting. Romney has no way in HELL of winning -- Ron Paul -- I have no idea. I'm not sure what opinion people have in general of RP -- but I figure he has LOWER NEGATIVES than Romney.

From the Left -- Romney is the same vulture capitalist type that ran Wall Street an our economy into an iceberg. He's almost the perfect wrong candidate for the time -- if he had some judge mental Christian like Santorum or Perry than I think you'd get the worst showing of Independents and Liberals in the history of this Republic. Romney will probably end up with a woman or a Latino as a VP pick, in a move to shore up where Romney is weakest.

Ron Paul is at least a "shot" at the Presidency mainly because he has no strong negatives and most people outside of Conservative circles (other than chronic bloggers like myself) don't have a strong opinion. That means he can be molded into something by November if people don't have much time to take a closer look.

>> I'm actually curious to see if Obama is going to become an actual Democrat his second term in office -- or continue to act like George Bush without the foot in mouth disease.

HINT: If the Republicans continue the same "damn socialist" meme that worked with their base in the general election -- the entire party might as well pack it up. Nobody is buying it, and most people think the Republicans have done nothing but obstruct. I don't know anyone who figures life would be BETTER with a move towards more Conservatism. For instance -- we'd have good positives in Job growth right now if Republican Governors weren't clear-cutting state jobs, and this realization is starting to filter into the commons.

Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

Is this true? It's awesome if it is. The fix has been in against the good doctor from the start and Romney is one dirty dealing old style politician. Does anybody have the actual delegate numbers that they can post? On the internet it looks like Sen.Paul is winning but on TV they make it look like Romney has already won.

It is official, and the numbers are accurate...front page of the review journal here in vegas

Originally posted by eLPresidente
RNC rules of 2012 uses RNC rules of 2010 and the rules from 2010 allow delegates to abstain in their vote.

Please quote the section of rules that allow bound delegates from abstaining from voting.


I know you won't...because it doesn't exist.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Read me:

www.fairvote.org

It exists. It's happening.

Fast forward to 56:00 and watch the delegation erupt in cheers for freedom and liberty.

i live in holland but ron paul rules !! if i could vote for him i would